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Mar 03, 2018 10:25 |  #1

I'm trying to look into off camera flash and was looking into triggers. Obviously heard a lot about Pocket Wizards and now I'm hearing about Godox. Thoughts on what I should start with or look into before buying?

Currently I have the Canon 580 ex ii and the LumoPro LP180. While I'm at it, I'll ask for thoughts on a starter softbox kit. Thanks as always.

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Mar 03, 2018 10:32 |  #2

It would help to know what kind of shooting you'll be doing. Studio, outdoor? Single target, team photo's, head shots, .....


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Mar 03, 2018 10:39 as a reply to  @ Grumpy_one's post |  #3

At this point, I'm looking at single target outdoors.

Thanks for asking the question and now your question makes me think of another question - why would it matter? So much too learn.....




  
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Mar 03, 2018 12:01 |  #4

All trigger systems are not created equal nor are they compatible with every flash or strobe. Plus it depends if you want just a simple trigger to fire the flash or the ability to change flash settings remotely. Opening up soft boxes or other modifiers to change flash settings is a pain at least as far as I am concerned. It also depends on what flash units you have.
Lots of info here https://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdis​play.php?f=35




  
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Mar 03, 2018 12:22 as a reply to  @ Dave3222's post |  #5

Thank you. This just brings up more questions, which is great! I would look for the ability to change the flash setting remotely.




  
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Mar 03, 2018 12:26 |  #6

If you only have one or two Canon flashes and just want to get started with triggers, I suggest the YongNuo 622 system. Very inexpensive and works well. Later, you might find you want to change brand of lights entirely, then you can consider Godox with built in wireless and their reasonably nice triggers.


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Mar 03, 2018 15:10 |  #7

I have something for you

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These units work well with any flash unit and are esp compatible with canon units if you eventually expand your kit.

Very reliable and flexible. I am a member in good standing at FM forums and have great ebay feedback "echelonphoto"

You can contact me at andrew@echelonphotogra​phers.com

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Mar 03, 2018 17:06 |  #8

OneDay wrote in post #18576576 (external link)
I'm trying to look into off camera flash and was looking into triggers. Obviously heard a lot about Pocket Wizards and now I'm hearing about Godox. Thoughts on what I should start with or look into before buying?

Currently I have the Canon 580 ex ii and the LumoPro LP180.

If you have an LP180R, then you should probably get a Phottix Odin or Strato trigger to use with the built-in receiver.

If you have a regular LP180, then you only need manual triggers. And you won't have TTL, HSS, or remote power control over the LP180, even if the triggers are capable of all three functions. Something like a pair of Yongnuo RF603II (~$30 for a pair) could be a good cheap way to start out.

PocketWizards (at least the TTL kind) with the 580EXII are not a great mix, as they create radio interference with the PW units, and had to have little blanket thingies wrapped around them to work well. Probably why Canon came up with the 600EX-RT.

Godox is a great system for future expansion (external link), but the LP180 can only be fired in it. You'd get more features with Godox speedlights. You could get a $65 Godox TT600 to use instead, though, and that will let you have HSS as well as remote power control from a Godox XProC or X1TC.

While I'm at it, I'll ask for thoughts on a starter softbox kit...

The basics are that you want a lightstand and then some way to attach your light and modifier to the stand. Typically, either an umbrella adapter/swivel (external link) or a bracket (external link).

If this is your first time out, an umbrella might be cheaper and more versatile then a softbox. And with a softbox, knowing what size of subject you're going to shoot can help you determine the right size of softbox. Mostly, I would just say to get a bracket that will let you mount a softbox with your speedlight.


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Mar 03, 2018 18:04 |  #9

If you're shooting outdoors, umbrellas might might not be your friend. There are some small, cheap, very collapsible softboxes out there. Check out this youtube https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=fMsHgfPb0sI (external link) particularity at 7:07.


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Mar 03, 2018 18:47 |  #10

Thank you, all. All very helpful. I'm going to ask, which I'm sure is a basic (silly) question. One of the Google searches I did had a flash trigger (Godox XproC). Does the flash need a receiver?




  
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Mar 03, 2018 21:35 as a reply to  @ OneDay's post |  #11

For non Godox items yes, look for the X1R units.


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Mar 03, 2018 21:46 |  #12

Some remote units are simply 'fire' only, with no other capability
Some remote units are made to provide remote adjustment of flash unit settings
Some remote units are HSS capable
Some remote units are eTTL capable

Depending upon what you are seeking, you might only want ONE of the above list, or you might seek some combinations of the above capabilities. If you can define which one(s), folks who are knowledgeable about specific products can suggest ones which have the capabilities you need.


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Mar 04, 2018 06:44 |  #13

Yongnuo 622 system.

Not expensive, very flexible, allows remote flash control, reliable.


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Mar 04, 2018 06:53 |  #14

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18576692 (external link)
If you only have one or two Canon flashes and just want to get started with triggers, I suggest the YongNuo 622 system. Very inexpensive and works well. Later, you might find you want to change brand of lights entirely, then you can consider Godox with built in wireless and their reasonably nice triggers.

^^^ what he said.

Although you may want to at least consider going ahead and standardizing on Godox. If you are in the US, adorama sells their stuff under the Flashpoint brand, BH sells some of their stuff.


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Mar 04, 2018 09:53 |  #15

Based on what everyone is saying, I'm leaning towards the Godox system and probably the XPro. If I'm looking at this correct, it has what the Yongnuos can provide and maybe a little more. Looking forward I'll probably be getting one of their speedlites as well for $65.

Thank you again for everyone posting. Great info on softboxes / umbrellas as well. The video was a great learning experience.

Now I just need to get out there and start shooting. Learning how to do manual on the camera was great and now looking forward to eventually learning manual on the lights as well.




  
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