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Mar 08, 2018 20:49 |  #1

Hello, everyone Marianne here. Nice to meet my fellow photographers, today I have about ICC profiling. I just bought a new monitor and calibrated it with enclosed software and a colorimeter. I created a monitor ICC profile after calibrating. This is the first time I am calibrating a monitor. My main goal for calibrating is creating accurate colors when printing. I've read on many photography websites that calibrating and creating a monitor ICC profile is an ABSOLUTE MUST for ACCURATE COLOR PRINTING. And there is a lot of fuss about calibrating the monitor and creating an ICC profile. Here is my question - In Photoshop under the Edit menu there is an option - Assign Color Profile. If I click on this option it brings up a dialog box showing that a color profile has ALREADY been assigned to my image for example RGB or sRGB and then there is a dropdown menu with a list of available profiles INCLUDING THE ICC PROFILE I CREATED after calibrating my monitor. So I can pick the ICC profile I created from the list. Should I pick my ICC profile that I created after calibrating my monitor or the one that Photoshop assigned to the image is better? If the one that Photoshop assigned is better then why did we go through the whole pain of creating the ICC profile for the monitor, do we actually need it? Thank you very much for your help, any advice would be greatly appreciated.




  
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Mar 08, 2018 20:53 |  #2

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Mar 09, 2018 10:59 |  #3

Good advice from Damo77. Think of color profiles as spoken languages and the need to translate between languages.
An image is normally stored on disk in one of a few languages - sRGB, Adobe98, ProPhoto. Think of those as English, French, and Italian. But your monitor speaks German. So you "profile" the monitor, which creates a translation table. Your operating system uses this table to translate the English of your stored image to the German of your monitor.

If you convert the stored image from English to German, your OS will still translate. But now it translates German to German. A worthless and unnecessary step.

Printers speak Chinese, Polish, Spanish, Danish, Greek. etc. But none of them speak English (sRGB), French (Adobe98), or Italian (ProPhoto). So a printer profile is used to translate. Some spoken languages have a bigger vocabulary than others. And some words in one spoken language do not have a direct translation to another language. Same with color profiles. There are colors in ProPhoto that no printer can speak. So the translation has to compensate, and sometimes that leads to a loss of meaning.




  
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Mar 10, 2018 10:43 |  #4

Thank you, I will look into it.




  
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Mar 10, 2018 10:43 |  #5

Redcrown wrote in post #18581128 (external link)
Good advice from Damo77. Think of color profiles as spoken languages and the need to translate between languages.
An image is normally stored on disk in one of a few languages - sRGB, Adobe98, ProPhoto. Think of those as English, French, and Italian. But your monitor speaks German. So you "profile" the monitor, which creates a translation table. Your operating system uses this table to translate the English of your stored image to the German of your monitor.

If you convert the stored image from English to German, your OS will still translate. But now it translates German to German. A worthless and unnecessary step.

Printers speak Chinese, Polish, Spanish, Danish, Greek. etc. But none of them speak English (sRGB), French (Adobe98), or Italian (ProPhoto). So a printer profile is used to translate. Some spoken languages have a bigger vocabulary than others. And some words in one spoken language do not have a direct translation to another language. Same with color profiles. There are colors in ProPhoto that no printer can speak. So the translation has to compensate, and sometimes that leads to a loss of meaning.

Thank you:-)




  
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