Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
Thread started 10 Mar 2018 (Saturday) 18:19
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Problem with 5D Mk4 and Speedlite triggers (problems that don't happen with 5D Mk3)

 
Jared5
Member
Avatar
88 posts
Likes: 16
Joined Aug 2016
Location: Seattle
     
Mar 10, 2018 18:19 |  #1

I've had lots of problems with Speedlite triggers on my 5D Mk4, but when I put the same trigger on my 5D Mk3 or 7D Mk2 everything works fine.

It's definitely not an issue with RF channel (frequency) settings or interference, because the other cameras trigger flawlessly in the same environment. It's something with the 5D Mk4 that's different.
I know it's not the 5D Mk4 hotshoe, because an on-camera Speedlite works just fine, and so do my Paul C Buff triggers for my Einsteins.


The problem happens with all three of these radio triggers:

ORLIT TR-611C (transceiver): https://www.adorama.co​m/orrrtr611c.html (external link)
ORLIT ST-RT (similar to the Canon ST-E3-RT): https://www.adorama.co​m/orrrstrt.html (external link)
Canon ST-E3-RT


When I use any of the above triggers with the 5D Mk4, it seems to trigger only every other time, and sometimes not even that. After the two ORLIT triggers failed me repeatedly, I purchased the Canon ST-E3-RT a month ago, hoping that it would be more reliable, but it failed completely on me last week. I also brought my 7D Mk2 along, and had to switch cameras to complete my shoot!

Oddly enough, the only consistent Speedlite triggering I can get with the 5D Mk4 is with the Yongnuo system. When I use the Yongnuo YN622C-TX transmitter and Younguo YN-622C receivers, it works every time!
https://www.amazon.com …Transceiver/dp/​B00NW3KNZO (external link)

Am I the only one this is happening to? Is there a setting or something that I'm just missing?


5D Mk4 | 5D Mk3 | 5D Mk2 | 7D Mk2 | 7D | 80D | 50D | 40D |
85mm f/1.8 (x2) | 50mm f/1.4 (x2) | 28mm f/1.8 | 50mm f/2.5 macro |
16-35mm f/2.8L | 24-70mm f/2.8L II (x2) | 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II | 70-200mm f/2.8L IS | ...and more in gear list

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
rejay14
Senior Member
Avatar
982 posts
Gallery: 44 photos
Likes: 425
Joined Mar 2009
Location: St. Catharines, Ontario
     
Mar 14, 2018 20:19 |  #2

Jared5 wrote in post #18582219 (external link)
I've had lots of problems with Speedlite triggers on my 5D Mk4, but when I put the same trigger on my 5D Mk3 or 7D Mk2 everything works fine.

It's definitely not an issue with RF channel (frequency) settings or interference, because the other cameras trigger flawlessly in the same environment. It's something with the 5D Mk4 that's different.
I know it's not the 5D Mk4 hotshoe, because an on-camera Speedlite works just fine, and so do my Paul C Buff triggers for my Einsteins.


The problem happens with all three of these radio triggers:

ORLIT TR-611C (transceiver): https://www.adorama.co​m/orrrtr611c.html (external link)
ORLIT ST-RT (similar to the Canon ST-E3-RT): https://www.adorama.co​m/orrrstrt.html (external link)
Canon ST-E3-RT


When I use any of the above triggers with the 5D Mk4, it seems to trigger only every other time, and sometimes not even that. After the two ORLIT triggers failed me repeatedly, I purchased the Canon ST-E3-RT a month ago, hoping that it would be more reliable, but it failed completely on me last week. I also brought my 7D Mk2 along, and had to switch cameras to complete my shoot!

Oddly enough, the only consistent Speedlite triggering I can get with the 5D Mk4 is with the Yongnuo system. When I use the Yongnuo YN622C-TX transmitter and Younguo YN-622C receivers, it works every time!
https://www.amazon.com …Transceiver/dp/​B00NW3KNZO (external link)

Am I the only one this is happening to? Is there a setting or something that I'm just missing?

I bought the 5D4 and 1DXii... they are not compatible with the older Yongnuo transmitters. I bought a fairly new YNTX and it works just great.

Jeff


1DX Mark II, 5D Mark IV, 40D,Rebel XT :lol:, 70-200L 2.8 IS II, 100-400L IS II,24-105 II L, 100mmL 2.8 IS, 16-35L 2.8 II, 24-70 2.8L II, Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art, Sekonic 758DR, Pixma 9500 II, Pixma 9000 II, Think Tank Airport Accelerator v2.0, Canon 600EX-RT x 5, Profoto B1 Kit with too many modifiers http:// …www.PrestigePhotoPro.c​om (external link) Portfolio (external link)
Concert Photography (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Jared5
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
88 posts
Likes: 16
Joined Aug 2016
Location: Seattle
     
Mar 15, 2018 07:34 as a reply to  @ rejay14's post |  #3

What's odd is my Yongnuo transmitters work great. My CANON transmitter doesn't work!


5D Mk4 | 5D Mk3 | 5D Mk2 | 7D Mk2 | 7D | 80D | 50D | 40D |
85mm f/1.8 (x2) | 50mm f/1.4 (x2) | 28mm f/1.8 | 50mm f/2.5 macro |
16-35mm f/2.8L | 24-70mm f/2.8L II (x2) | 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II | 70-200mm f/2.8L IS | ...and more in gear list

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
inkista
Senior Member
Avatar
563 posts
Likes: 49
Joined Oct 2007
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
     
Mar 15, 2018 15:18 |  #4

No idea if this will make any difference, but do you have the latest firmware on the Orlit units?

https://www.adorama.co​m/g/orlit-download-page (external link)

There have been a lot of 3rd-party trigger incompatibilities with the newer Canon bodies from the 5DMkIV and 80D onwards, so apparently Canon modified the hotshoe protocol in a way that broke a lot of 3rd-party triggers (including PocketWizard's). Some required hardware fixes, some were fixed via firmware updates.


I'm a woman. I shoot with a Fuji X100T, Panasonic GX-7, Canon 5DmkII, and 50D. flickr stream (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Nick5
Goldmember
Avatar
2,961 posts
Likes: 153
Joined Mar 2007
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
     
Mar 16, 2018 09:37 |  #5

Jared5 wrote in post #18582219 (external link)
I've had lots of problems with Speedlite triggers on my 5D Mk4, but when I put the same trigger on my 5D Mk3 or 7D Mk2 everything works fine.

It's definitely not an issue with RF channel (frequency) settings or interference, because the other cameras trigger flawlessly in the same environment. It's something with the 5D Mk4 that's different.
I know it's not the 5D Mk4 hotshoe, because an on-camera Speedlite works just fine, and so do my Paul C Buff triggers for my Einsteins.


The problem happens with all three of these radio triggers:

ORLIT TR-611C (transceiver): https://www.adorama.co​m/orrrtr611c.html (external link)
ORLIT ST-RT (similar to the Canon ST-E3-RT): https://www.adorama.co​m/orrrstrt.html (external link)
Canon ST-E3-RT


When I use any of the above triggers with the 5D Mk4, it seems to trigger only every other time, and sometimes not even that. After the two ORLIT triggers failed me repeatedly, I purchased the Canon ST-E3-RT a month ago, hoping that it would be more reliable, but it failed completely on me last week. I also brought my 7D Mk2 along, and had to switch cameras to complete my shoot!

Oddly enough, the only consistent Speedlite triggering I can get with the 5D Mk4 is with the Yongnuo system. When I use the Yongnuo YN622C-TX transmitter and Younguo YN-622C receivers, it works every time!
https://www.amazon.com …Transceiver/dp/​B00NW3KNZO (external link)

Am I the only one this is happening to? Is there a setting or something that I'm just missing?

Jared5.

When in doubt, contact Canon support or Canon CPS support if you are a member the old way, on the phone.
Without seeing your camera in front of me, they can set up their inventory to match yours and see if they can replicate. It may be something simple that was moved in the menu's ( External Speedlite control maybe, maybe not). If that doesn't solve it, send it to Canon for service. Maybe the on camera hot shoe could need a cleaning at contact points, moisture or bumped.
I would certainly call them today.
I have been using the Canon system only now for six years with no problems.
Let us know what they say.
Thanks.


Canon 5D Mark III (x2), BG-E11 Grips, 7D (x2) BG-E7 Grips, Canon Lenses 16-35 f/4 L IS, 17-40 f/4 L, 24-70 f/4 L IS, 24-105 f/4 L IS, 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, 70-200 f/4 L IS, 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 L IS, TS-E 24 f/3.5 L II, 100 f/2.8 L Macro IS, 10-22 f3.5-4.5, 17-55 f/2.8 L IS, 50 f/1.4, 85 f/1.8, Canon 1.4 Extender III, 5 Canon 600 EX-RT, 2 Canon ST-E3 Transmitters, Canon Pixma PRO-10 Printer

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Jared5
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
88 posts
Likes: 16
Joined Aug 2016
Location: Seattle
     
Mar 17, 2018 23:34 as a reply to  @ inkista's post |  #6

I'll give that a try. The funny thing is that I shot a wedding yesterday using two ORLIT TR-611C transmitters (on my 5D Mk3 and 5D Mk4), and they worked great!
The problem is that I can never tell when they will work or not. Same thing with the Canon transmitter. The Yongnuo transmitters work every time, but I need to attach a receiver to each Speedlite, and would rather eliminate the extra bulk.

I checked batteries, gently checked the hotshoe connection, because I've had hotshoe problems in the past with my 5D Mk3 causing intermittent Speedlite connection. I sent the camera to CPS for repair and it worked great ever since (and I stopped mounting my GoPro to the hotshoe too).


When I tried to update the ORLIT TR-611C transmitter with the V2 firmware, it didn't take, and I'm still stuck on V001, but I'll keep trying.


5D Mk4 | 5D Mk3 | 5D Mk2 | 7D Mk2 | 7D | 80D | 50D | 40D |
85mm f/1.8 (x2) | 50mm f/1.4 (x2) | 28mm f/1.8 | 50mm f/2.5 macro |
16-35mm f/2.8L | 24-70mm f/2.8L II (x2) | 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II | 70-200mm f/2.8L IS | ...and more in gear list

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

2,338 views & 1 like for this thread
Problem with 5D Mk4 and Speedlite triggers (problems that don't happen with 5D Mk3)
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is lynx36
897 guests, 402 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6430, that happened on Dec 03, 2017

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.