g1x mk111

Just wondering if anyone has the new g1x mk111 .I have and love the mk11 but won't consider changing until it goes bang.Seems very quiet about this camera which is a shame.Thanks

I have it and I really like it. At the moment though I can only process the raws in DPP which I'm not fond of. I know Capture One are beta testing their next version so presumably/hopefully it will be supported. I'll report back with more details and images once that issue is resolved.

Mine arrived on Friday. Early days but I already like it a lot. In low light there is nothing in it for image quality compare to my failed Sony RX100 mki ii, but in other use it clips highlights less and the dynamic range seems to be better (pulling detail from shadows). Images also have a DSLR "feel" to them. The focusing is night and day better as you'd expect with dual pixel. For the size increase (jacket pocket, not shirt pocket) I get a much more engaging shooting experience; EVF directly over the lens vs none on the RX100, properly tactile to hold, additional control wheels intuitively placed - so no need to take the camera away from the eye and start using button shortcuts or delving in to menus. The latter is further helped by two custom slots on the mode wheel just like my 7D and 5D iv. Click click selected. Easy. At least for the usage so far I have not noticed image softness compared to the RX100 as reported in reviews.

Edited to add: I am editing in Lightroom Classic CC. Adobe has caught up.

So, very happy so far.

Thank you ,look forward to any updates if you wish to add any

Unfortunately Capture One still isn't supporting it. I shall be exceedingly grumpy if I have to turn to Lightroom to process the raws since I use C1 for everything else. That said, I process minimally anyway and I can cope with DPP for the time being.

Agree with Charlie Victor, I am delighted with low light performance. A lot of reviewers complained about the slow lens, especially at the long end, a but I haven't found it much of a handicap.

Hi there any updates on the Mk III? RAW seems to be supported in Photoshop CC.

Charlie Victor wrote in post #18638832
Mine arrived on Friday. Early days but I already like it a lot. In low light there is nothing in it for image quality compare to my failed Sony RX100 mki ii, but in other use it clips highlights less and the dynamic range seems to be better (pulling detail from shadows). Images also have a DSLR "feel" to them. The focusing is night and day better as you'd expect with dual pixel. For the size increase (jacket pocket, not shirt pocket) I get a much more engaging shooting experience; EVF directly over the lens vs none on the RX100, properly tactile to hold, additional control wheels intuitively placed - so no need to take the camera away from the eye and start using button shortcuts or delving in to menus. The latter is further helped by two custom slots on the mode wheel just like my 7D and 5D iv. Click click selected. Easy. At least for the usage so far I have not noticed image softness compared to the RX100 as reported in reviews.

Edited to add: I am editing in Lightroom Classic CC. Adobe has caught up.

So, very happy so far.

Charlie, I'm looking at buying the G1X III but I'm new so can't PM but I'd love to chat with you about your G1X III.
Is there any way we can chat?
Cheers
Tony

Hambone, I'd love to chat with you and ask some questions about the Mk III.
Cheers
Tony

My initial "early days" review stands true, but a couple of months and several thousand images later I add the following remarks.

Good:
The G1X mk iii is a fantastic travel camera (DSLR in the pocket) capable of stunning images so long as ISO of 400 or below can be used. In this regard, it leaves my two failed RX100s for dust. Images need less tweaking in post, and when they do, the latitude to play with is greater. The control layout is a revelation and the mix of touch features such as for focus, married with physical control dial such as for exposure compensation make the camera a joy to handle. Far more engaging than the RX100 mk ii it replaced and the mk i before that. The viewfinder is superb both for image quality and information displayed, and the hotshoe great to have. Dual pixel focus is much faster and more reliable than the RX100 and its ability to track is superb; initial thoughts were accurate.

Not so good:
Image quality above ISO 400 drops off quickly and by 1600 is both soft and grainy and inferior to the RX100 mk i and ii I am familiar with. Unfortunately the slow lens means I use ISO 1600 when I would still be on 400 with either RX100; casual indoor shots such as at a restaurant table are consequently no better than with either RX100 and often inferior, unless I attach a Speedlight. I'm not a videographer so it doesn't matter to me, but video quality is relatively poor even at best settings for 1920x1080 at 50fps in good light; lacking detail and vibrancy, video quality is little better than my Samsung S7 Edge smartphone and inferior to the RX100 mk i and ii.

On balance:
An absolute joy to control, and for most of my specific usage (outdoor travel photogaphy in reasonable or bright light) a marked step up from the RX100. I made absolutely the right purchase decision. It is though a step backwards in poorer light. I pay the latter price to get the former benefit.

Charlie Victor wrote in post #18693555
My initial "early days" review stands true, but a couple of months and several thousand images later I add the following remarks.

Good:
The G1X mk iii is a fantastic travel camera (DSLR in the pocket) capable of stunning images so long as ISO of 400 or below can be used. In this regard, it leaves my two failed RX100s for dust. Images need less tweaking in post, and when they do, the latitude to play with is greater. The control layout is a revelation and the mix of touch features such as for focus, married with physical control dial such as for exposure compensation make the camera a joy to handle. Far more engaging than the RX100 mk ii it replaced and the mk i before that. The viewfinder is superb both for image quality and information displayed, and the hotshoe great to have. Dual pixel focus is much faster and more reliable than the RX100 and its ability to track is superb; initial thoughts were accurate.

Not so good:
Image quality above ISO 400 drops off quickly and by 1600 is both soft and grainy and inferior to the RX100 mk i and ii I am familiar with. Unfortunately the slow lens means I use ISO 1600 when I would still be on 400 with either RX100; casual indoor shots such as at a restaurant table are consequently no better than with either RX100 and often inferior, unless I attach a Speedlight. I'm not a videographer so it doesn't matter to me, but video quality is relatively poor even at best settings for 1920x1080 at 50fps in good light; lacking detail and vibrancy, video quality is little better than my Samsung S7 Edge smartphone and inferior to the RX100 mk i and ii.

On balance:
An absolute joy to control, and for most of my specific usage (outdoor travel photogaphy in reasonable or bright light) a marked step up from the RX100. I made absolutely the right purchase decision. It is though a step backwards in poorer light. I pay the latter price to get the former benefit.

Thanks Charlie Victor. Okay, you've got me wondering... seeing as the G1X3 has the same sensor as my 80D, and with the Digic 7 processor, I'd have expected higher ISO performance to match the 80D? Certainly on my 80D I get shadow noise, but up to ISO 3200 I can manage it. Why would the G1X3 be noisier than the 80D with the same sensor do you think? With respect to your 'Good' comments, yes I agree the actual 'feel and handling' of a compact needs to be right. One thing Canon does brilliantly is get the ergonomics right. Canon cameras feel good to use with the controls where they should be. Plus the G1X3 has the same controls over picture taking as many of it's upmarket DSLR's. I've ordered the camera to use travelling and I'm sure it'll be fine.

Here is an image taken earlier this year at dawn on the Ganges River (India) on my 80D at ISO 2500. I've treated it with Topaz De-Noise a tad but it's quite acceptable IMO.

Thanks Charlie for your informative posts on the G1X3. I notice, like me, you're using Photoshop and Lightroom CC. I shot a few test shots on the G1X3 and couldn't find a lens profile for the camera.

I get a bit of fringing (purple) at wide angle, wide open in the corners and checking 'Remove Chromatic Aberration' and 'Enable profile Correction' in CR doesn't help much. I can correct it quite easily manually but I'd have thought a lens profile from Adobe might have solved most of the problems automatically. Are you aware of a camera and/or lens profile for the G1X3?
Thanks Tony

I asked the same question of Canon and was informed that it is because the G1X mk iii has built-in profile correction that is applied to both CR2 (which I shoot exclusively) and JPG files. The absence of images with huge barrel (like the RX100) or pincushion distortion bears this out. I experience the same purple fringing at wide angle when shot in to bright background and like you easily remove it manually in Lightroom CC.

Regarding ISO of 1600 and above; yes, I can help matters in post production editing and get an acceptable result, but like-for-like (as shot or with shadows pulled) the amount of grain is more than either RX100 that are my benchmarks for comparison and the amount of noise reduction required is greater. The result is images that at best have no more detail than they would have done with an RX100, and usually have less. At lower ISO however the RX100 cannot hold a candle to the G1X mk iii. In this scenario I was already deeply impressed with both my examples of the former (they redefined what I expected of a travel camera even though sadly not long term reliability) but the latter is in an even higher orbit. Superb.

Charlie Victor wrote in post #18693873
I asked the same question of Canon and was informed that it is because the G1X mk iii has built-in profile correction that is applied to both CR2 (which I shoot exclusively) and JPG files. The absence of images with huge barrel (like the RX100) or pincushion distortion bears this out. I experience the same purple fringing at wide angle when shot in to bright background and like you easily remove it manually in Lightroom CC.

Regarding ISO of 1600 and above; yes, I can help matters in post production editing and get an acceptable result, but like-for-like (as shot or with shadows pulled) the amount of grain is more than either RX100 that are my benchmarks for comparison and the amount of noise reduction required is greater. The result is images that at best have no more detail than they would have done with an RX100, and usually have less. At lower ISO however the RX100 cannot hold a candle to the G1X mk iii. In this scenario I was already deeply impressed with both my examples of the former (they redefined what I expected of a travel camera even though sadly not long term reliability) but the latter is in an even higher orbit. Superb.

Yes i noticed in (CR) Lens Correction that some correction was evident. With respect to shadow noise, I believe the Sony sensors used by many manufacturers (particularly Nikon) have superior (shadow) noise performance to Canon. I have no idea why Canon don't spend more resources on improving their CMOS sensors rather than releasing a new camera deviant to satisfy the smallest of niche markets? But... I guess it that was the case we wouldn't have the G1X3. I'm glad to hear you're more than happy with your G1X3 purchase because it's obvious you're an experienced and knowledgeable photographer. I agonised over pulling the trigger to buy one but I'm glad i have and as a matter of fact I'm selling my 5D Mk III and my 16-35mm 2.8L wide angle. I'm sticking with my 80D, 15-85mm, 24-70mm 2.8L and 100-400 L lenses. I've also ordered a used 10-22mm to give me extreme wide on the APS-C 80D. Not an L lens but pretty nice all the same.

Charlie Victor wrote in post #18693873
Regarding ISO of 1600 and above; yes, I can help matters in post production editing and get an acceptable result, but like-for-like (as shot or with shadows pulled) the amount of grain is more than either RX100 that are my benchmarks for comparison and the amount of noise reduction required is greater. The result is images that at best have no more detail than they would have done with an RX100, and usually have less. At lower ISO however the RX100 cannot hold a candle to the G1X mk iii. In this scenario I was already deeply impressed with both my examples of the former (they redefined what I expected of a travel camera even though sadly not long term reliability) but the latter is in an even higher orbit. Superb.

When i shoot my 80D at higher ISO, if I figure the image in important, I use a 3 shot bracket (HDR in RAW) saved my Custom Function. The deep shadows then tend to be less noisy.