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Mar 13, 2018 10:36 |  #1

I am looking to get a boom or grip arm to hold a ad360 and 48' octabox. I have a solid light stand I can use, until I can upgrade to a c-stand. I came across https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …3612_40_hex_gri​p_arm.html (external link) and https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …1_Grip_Head_Wit​h_Hex.html (external link) as options


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Mar 13, 2018 11:15 |  #2

I prefer this kind of set up.

https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …2HZgVAEAQYASABE​gLaqfD_BwE (external link)

The second item you posted oes not have the receiver that both of these grip knuckles have.


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Mar 13, 2018 11:44 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #3

Thank you, would this work https://rover.ebay.com …Fulk%2Fitm%2F38​2248353721 (external link)


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Mar 13, 2018 11:47 |  #4

Hi, Is your existing stand topped off with a full Baby Pin (like a C-stand) or just the more usual stud/spigot? The former is strongly preferred for an Extension Arm or Boom.

Kupo's 40 in Hex Arm is good, but as LHB says, you should price in a Kupo Grip-Head complete in addition.

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https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …2_1_2_Grip_Head​_With.html (external link)




  
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Mar 13, 2018 11:50 as a reply to  @ OceanRipple*'s post |  #5

It's the stud/spigot for the light stand.


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Mar 13, 2018 11:55 |  #6

Nicole2320 wrote in post #18584552 (external link)
It's the stud/spigot for the light stand.

OK. Personally I don't think that a stud topped stand is strong enough for the leverage exerted by an extension arm. If you go that route, certainly fully counter-balance the Arm, IMO.

Consider:
https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …ior_Roller_Stan​d_8_8.html (external link)

. . a thinking person's C-stand. (Note the strong top fitting.)




  
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Mar 13, 2018 12:37 |  #7

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OK. Personally I don't think that a stud topped stand is strong enough for the leverage exerted by an extension arm

I agree. Frankly I'm not sure I'd put more than a counterbalanced grip arm on most spigot stands.

For most of my purposes a C stand and grip arm is perfect. If I am working in tight quarters I often have to have stand legs overlapping. With a 360 and 42" octa I can extend the arm a little more than half way and have room to put the soft box wherever I need it with a counterbalance on the other end of the arm. It is a set up that is steady in a controlled environment.

I have larger stands with baby pins and larger bases when I have more space and there are other people wandering around.


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Mar 13, 2018 12:43 |  #8

I use this on the very end of my grip arm to counterbalance.

https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=18145330

Also always use weights on the base if going over 5-6 feet.


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Mar 13, 2018 13:50 as a reply to  @ OceanRipple*'s post |  #9

That it out of my price range at the moment.if I get the baby pin, can I use the suggestions previously.


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Mar 13, 2018 14:14 |  #10

I'd check the specs on your current stand and see if it can handle the weight. I have no problem putting a Profoto Acute2 or Compact300ws monolight in my 150cm Elinchrom Octa on a Matthews C Stand with Hollywood Arm as long as it's secured with a set weight but wouldn't even consider a standard lightstand with or without a boom. I also have a Super Boom that can handle just about everything I own, it's paid for itself in the 20+ years that I've owned it. Buy once and avoid wasting money.


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Mar 13, 2018 15:35 |  #11

Nicole2320 wrote in post #18584667 (external link)
That it out of my price range at the moment.if I get the baby pin, can I use the suggestions previously.

Could you give us a link to your existing stand? The AD360 is not too heavy but that softbox is bulky. There may be workarounds but with a questionable stand, you'd need to use a counterweight to precisely balance out the loaded extension arm - and the off-set from the stand will be c 20 in using a 40 in Arm.




  
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Mar 13, 2018 16:01 as a reply to  @ OceanRipple*'s post |  #12

Thanks all. This is the stands I have PBL Light Stands 10 Foot, Pro Heavy Duty Spring Cushioned, All Metal Locking Collars, Set of 2 with Carry Bags Black Finish by PBL https://www.amazon.com …sw_r_cp_apa_.Vd​QAb872QZV3 (external link)


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Mar 13, 2018 16:41 |  #13

Nicole2320 wrote in post #18584797 (external link)
Thanks all. This is the stands I have PBL Light Stands 10 Foot, Pro Heavy Duty Spring Cushioned, All Metal Locking Collars, Set of 2 with Carry Bags Black Finish by PBL https://www.amazon.com …sw_r_cp_apa_.Vd​QAb872QZV3 (external link)

Tx. Those are decent stands but the top fitting (stud) will only occupy the lower half of a Grip-Head's 5/8th in receiver - meaning that any leverage applied will, so to speak, be met by half the resistance that, say, a C-stand would offer. (The top fitting of a C-stand or Kupo's Baby Roller is twice as long and c 3 times as strong as the stud on your stands.) Sorry, but it's difficult to recommend that you proceed using an Extension Arm on those stands - on safety grounds.




  
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Mar 13, 2018 22:33 as a reply to  @ OceanRipple*'s post |  #14

Thank you, for the advice


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Mar 14, 2018 15:12 as a reply to  @ Nicole2320's post |  #15

Are there any beginner c stands that you would recommend?


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