I Hate the Godox AD600Pro

Just saying this for the record.

I hate it. Dang Godox.

I mean, I like the light for what it is, although the only thing I really needed from it is the higher power modeling light.

But the tube, battery, and AC adapter aren't compatible with the AD600.

Dang that. Dang it really hard.

I hate incompatibility.

It's mostly for the better though, isn't it ?

That said now that they've adopted a pretty good flash tube / mount position / modeling light design / default umbrella reflector design, I hope that they'll stick to it for their other lights as it's impossible to make modifiers that work on a consistent basis across various lights if you keep changing the design.

MayaTlab wrote in post #18589169
It's mostly for the better though, isn't it ?

That said now that they've adopted a pretty good flash tube / mount position / modeling light design / default umbrella reflector design, I hope that they'll stick to it for their other lights as it's impossible to make modifiers that work on a consistent basis across various lights if you keep changing the design.

Unfortunately, the AD600Pro is evidence of one of my Godox fears--that they'll just churn out new models without regard to maintaining any level of intentional compatibility with the last model.

Personally I rather see it as them fixing the AD600's much perfectible flash tube / reflector / LED / mount design for now. If they again change their mind later on, then I'll start to be worried.

RDKirk wrote in post #18589229
Unfortunately, the AD600Pro is evidence of one of my Godox fears--that they'll just churn out new models without regard to maintaining any level of intentional compatibility with the last model.

That has been my realization too. Fast product turnaround, but at the expense of leaving last year's purchases on the roadside... This is why I picked up spare bulbs and other things for the Godox lights I have now, I plan on just using them as is until they die. Since they do what I really need them to do (with some wants for future models), I hopefully am good for a few years.

RDKirk wrote in post #18589229
Unfortunately, the AD600Pro is evidence of one of my Godox fears--that they'll just churn out new models without regard to maintaining any level of intentional compatibility with the last model.

It's a valid concern as that's what Chinese firms are known for but you'd have gotten the same from Elinchrom with ELC/ELB or Profoto D heads.

It would appear the price of progress is obsolescence but I'll not be replacing my AD600 anytime soon as it still works just fine.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18589247
That has been my realization too. Fast product turnaround, but at the expense of leaving last year's purchases on the roadside... This is why I picked up spare bulbs and other things for the Godox lights I have now, I plan on just using them as is until they die. Since they do what I really need them to do (with some wants for future models), I hopefully am good for a few years.

As soon as I heard about the new model coming out, Adorama had a sale of the AD600 and I jumped on that, just to have some compatible backup...just in case the new model was incompatible. Which it is.

simonbarker wrote in post #18589329
It's a valid concern as that's what Chinese firms are known for but you'd have gotten the same from Elinchrom with ELC/ELB or Profoto D heads.

It would appear the price of progress is obsolescence but I'll not be replacing my AD600 anytime soon as it still works just fine.

ELC/ELB in what sense?

RDKirk wrote in post #18589162
Just saying this for the record.

I hate it. Dang Godox.

I mean, I like the light for what it is, although the only thing I really needed from it is the higher power modeling light.

But the tube, battery, and AC adapter aren't compatible with the AD600.

Dang that. Dang it really hard.

I hate incompatibility.

All of this was addressed prior to the release. The two units are different though the pro is a higher end version of the Xplor aimed at “pros” not a replacement. Keep in mind the xplor is the entry level unit with TTL and manual option and the pro is TTL only.

I bought the Adorama version of the xplor prior to the pro announcement/speculati​on and no word on stopping support for it. And in the crazy event that happens Adorama has you covered for a discount towards a new unit if yours craps out and it can’t be replaced. You can’t beat that really for the cost.

It’s a little too early to think the xplor is outdated already, look at the rovelight there is still support for that unit and the xplor is better than that imo. Let’s wait until Godox makes a version II then we can panic.

Hopefully they make a studio version.

Jotto123 wrote in post #18589905
Hopefully they make a studio version.

But is there a point, given that it will soon have the AC adapter, a 38W modeling lamp, and a 0.9 recycle time ?

Maybe heat dissipation could be improved though ?

Osa713 wrote in post #18589818
All of this was addressed prior to the release. The two units are different though the pro is a higher end version of the Xplor aimed at “pros” not a replacement. Keep in mind the xplor is the entry level unit with TTL and manual option and the pro is TTL only.

I bought the Adorama version of the xplor prior to the pro announcement/speculati​on and no word on stopping support for it. And in the crazy event that happens Adorama has you covered for a discount towards a new unit if yours craps out and it can’t be replaced. You can’t beat that really for the cost.

It’s a little too early to think the xplor is outdated already, look at the rovelight there is still support for that unit and the xplor is better than that imo. Let’s wait until Godox makes a version II then we can panic.

I'm aware of all that. Being aware of incompatibility does not make me like it.

I'm likely to buy an AD600 Pro, primarily for the modeling light. But the incompatibility will still irk me because "everything essential must be redundant."

RDKirk wrote in post #18589940
I'm aware of all that. Being aware of incompatibility does not make me like it.

I'm likely to buy an AD600 Pro, primarily for the modeling light. But the incompatibility will still irk me because "everything essential must be redundant."

Have you looked into the latest batches of LED lights? If you want a modeling light, the lights I just picked up for our video crew might be interesting to you.

The Neewer 480 LED panel takes main power or also 2 rechargeables for mobile/travel studios, and you can dial in the temperature setting and brightness, both useful as a modeling light. Only $70... It works pretty darn well for video, and I would think also as a modeling light. Just no remote control, but there are a few others that include an IR controller.

https://www.amazon.com …r=8-4&keywords=neewer+480

The dual head for the AD200 does pretty well as a modeling light too, if you want to stay within the Godox line, and use the modularity of the current systems.

https://www.amazon.com …ywords=led+mode​ling+light

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18589944
Have you looked into the latest batches of LED lights? If you want a modeling light, the lights I just picked up for our video crew might be interesting to you.

The Neewer 480 LED panel takes main power or also 2 rechargeables for mobile/travel studios, and you can dial in the temperature setting and brightness, both useful as a modeling light. Only $70... It works pretty darn well for video, and I would think also as a modeling light. Just no remote control, but there are a few others that include an IR controller.

'Way back in the early 80s I had a set of Spiratone AC flashes that each had a hot shoe for a little floodlight they sold as an attachable modeling light. I don't plan to go that route again.

I've got a couple of sets of LED lights I use for video interviews--both canister form-format that I can use with my still modifiers and panels that I use for general room lighting. I'm not going to try stuffing one of them into a softbox along with the flash unit.

So what about the dual head for the AD200? The dual head puts out just a bit less light than the AD600, and you get the modeling light (or 2 really, you can turn each on independently). Not sure if you have any AD200 units though, they are quite handy, and often you can pick them up on sale with accessories for around $280 or so each.

https://www.diyphotogr​aphy.net …200-lights-even-powerful/
https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=vTMLoyYOy3s