Jonesin' for a full frame body.

Help me, please. I made a conscious decision to sell my 6D about 2 months ago. I spent most of the proceeds (~$400) buying some really nice, old, manual film gear. Lots of it comes in 'packages' so I've acquired:

Yashica FX-D x2 & FX-3 S2K.
28mm f/2.8, 50mm f/1.9, 135mm f/2.8,
21-35mm, 28-85mm, 70-210mm, 2X TC,
several flash units, including a Contax TLA-30, which works well on my 80D!

The remainder of the 6D proceeds will pay for 10-12 rolls of film, plus processing/scanning. I'm as happy as a pig-in-a-pile-of-poop over my new stuff. I've already got some cat photos on the roll. I am enjoying all-manual-everything for a change. I also have an Elan 7NE if I want to shoot my EF glass on a full frame film body, with auto-anything-and-or-everything.

Then some heinous cad posts that the 6D is on sale (refurbished) for $899. Which got me looking at Canon's refurbished site, which drew me to a refurbished 6D2. Seems like $1499 is a reasonable price for a 6D2. WTH! Why am I doing this? Someone help me, please. My G.A.S. is back.

Am I understanding that you have no digital bodies at all now? If so, I'm not sure I can help you lol

Incorrect. I do still have my 80D.

You've shot plenty of full frame.

You know it won't do much different.

You'll end up selling it.

Shoot what you have.

To reverse GAS, put some requirements, such as you have to produce X, Y & Z photographically, before you can consider buying more.

I find that photographing, in and of itself, keeps you from spending on GAS.

Very best,

MalVeauX wrote in post #18598940
You've shot plenty of full frame.

You know it won't do much different.

You'll end up selling it.

Shoot what you have.

To reverse GAS, put some requirements, such as you have to produce X, Y & Z photographically, before you can consider buying more.

I find that photographing, in and of itself, keeps you from spending on GAS.

Very best,

Set some goals! Very good idea. I want to do some multiple-light stuff with my new film gear. Some macro-ish work, too. The 28-85 goes to 1:4 (almost) macro. I do plan on taking the FX3/21-35/70-210/2X TC to a Cubs game this spring. And spring IS coming, even to northern Indiana... eventually!

I do 'know' that full frame is not a panacea. I sold my 6D for some very good reasons. For me, the 80D is a better camera. And I can certainly get by with the 80D and 4 (full-frame!) film bodies.

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=nFmkL8TqN4c

Works for gas too!!...

MakisM1 wrote in post #18599003
https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=nFmkL8TqN4c

Works for gas too!!...

Watched the video. Couldn't figure out what you meant, until I re-read your post. VFF, Gerry!

MalVeauX wrote in post #18598940
To reverse GAS, put some requirements, such as you have to produce X, Y & Z photographically, before you can consider buying more.

I find that photographing, in and of itself, keeps you from spending on GAS.

Wrong!!! The more photography I do, the stronger my GAS gets!

For me it is a vicious circle. I buy a new camera, a year or so later I notice how much I improved in my photography, then I think why I did not buy a better camera sooner, upgrade to another new camera, a year or so later I notice... and so on. I once thought that I would have saved a lot of money if when I started I bought the 5D4 (or whatever equivalent was available at that time).

I just got to the point when I don't think I need anything new, but I still open B&H catalog to see what's available!

Why would you sell a 6D, go manual (i.e. it wasn't the 6D AF that annoyed you) and then get a 6DII? Makes no sense to me. 5DIV for better resolution/AF, even a Sony A-something-or-other depending on what you shoot, but 6DII?

I strongly suggest you shoot and develop several different types of film first because if you fall in love with it, that and the 80D will be enough.

Relax. There are plenty of medium and large format cameras outthere singing the sirens songs ever tried 6x6? Uh those hassys and bronicas are sweet. Or how about a mamiya C TLR? Or move up to 6x7 to a RZ, RB or maybe a PENTAX 67II, or a rangefinder like the fuji's or mamiya 7. Oh and the LF cameras you can get are sooo cool. I love my Chamonix 45F1and would adore an 8x10" Chamonix or Deardorf or Ebony......

ejenner wrote in post #18599802
Why would you sell a 6D, go manual (i.e. it wasn't the 6D AF that annoyed you) and then get a 6DII? Makes no sense to me. 5DIV for better resolution/AF, even a Sony A-something-or-other depending on what you shoot, but 6DII?

I strongly suggest you shoot and develop several different types of film first because if you fall in love with it, that and the 80D will be enough.

You are correct, sir! It makes no sense, no sense at all. I'll avoid the 5-series because all I want/need is a full frame sensor. I had no real complaint about the 6D, with the exception of AI-Servo AF. And that is why I bought the 80D. The only real problem with the 6D2 is that the 80D is a 6D2 with an aps-c sensor. The 6D2 offers me nothing, except full frame.

soeren wrote in post #18599816
Relax. There are plenty of medium and large format cameras outthere singing the sirens songs ever tried 6x6? Uh those hassys and bronicas are sweet. Or how about a mamiya C TLR? Or move up to 6x7 to a RZ, RB or maybe a PENTAX 67II, or a rangefinder like the fuji's or mamiya 7. Oh and the LF cameras you can get are sooo cool. I love my Chamonix 45F1and would adore an 8x10" Chamonix or Deardorf or Ebony......

I keep looking at Pentax 645 listings. I know I'll end up with one... eventually. Or something similar from Mamiya, or Hasselblad.

Bassat wrote in post #18599921
You are correct, sir! It makes no sense, no sense at all. I'll avoid the 5-series because all I want/need is a full frame sensor. I had no real complaint about the 6D, with the exception of AI-Servo AF. And that is why I bought the 80D. The only real problem with the 6D2 is that the 80D is a 6D2 with an aps-c sensor. The 6D2 offers me nothing, except full frame.

I keep looking at Pentax 645 listings. I know I'll end up with one... eventually. Or something similar from Mamiya, or Hasselblad.

The p645, m645 and zb645 are nice cameras but the negs are so tiny
I could fancy the RF645 just because it's special.

Getting a 645 or 6x6 for film is the only reason I can see going for film at all. 35mm film sucked— I used it for documentary and sports. Anything serious got 120 film or bigger. Kodachrome made 35mm film useful for annual reports and gave my Leicas a commercial space in my bag. I really don't get people jonesing for a miniature 24x36 film area, especially when they don't do the whole process themselves. My Mercedes is dual-clutch manual trans, shifted by computers— reminds me of people shooting film but not doing it themselves.

I designed a photo major (BFA, MFA programs) at a college and made them build darkrooms and buy 120 waist-level finder cameras. Big negs are great to print.

I don't understand selling a 6D and keeping an 80D, although you said it was for AI Servo. Sensors have gotten better and I don't trash APSC like I used to (especially when the blur of AA filters are removed), so yeah, I don't think it will change your life. Great glass might. If you want to experience film like us old guys (I've shot 60,000 rolls (or equivalent sq inches of sheets) and I was kinda done when the EPA made me get a generator license), I vote for big negs and an Omega D5XL.

mcluckie wrote in post #18599950
Getting a 645 or 6x6 for film is the only reason I can see going for film at all. 35mm film sucked— I used it for documentary and sports. Anything serious got 120 film or bigger. Kodachrome made 35mm film useful for annual reports and gave my Leicas a commercial space in my bag. I really don't get people jonesing for a miniature 24x36 film area, especially when they don't do the whole process themselves. My Mercedes is dual-clutch manual trans, shifted by computers— reminds me of people shooting film but not doing it themselves.

I designed a photo major (BFA, MFA programs) at a college and made them build darkrooms and buy 120 waist-level finder cameras. Big negs are great to print.

I don't understand selling a 6D and keeping an 80D, although you said it was for AI Servo. Sensors have gotten better and I don't trash APSC like I used to (especially when the blur of AA filters are removed), so yeah, I don't think it will change your life. Great glass might. If you want to experience film like us old guys (I've shot 60,000 rolls (or equivalent sq inches of sheets) and I was kinda done when the EPA made me get a generator license), I vote for big negs and an Omega D5XL.

Yes, I agree with you that 35mm film sucks. That's why I only stayed with it for 40+ years. Horrible, just horrible stuff. I shot 620 before I got into 35mm, but my Brownie Hawkeye Flash doesn't have many controls. Going to 35mm SLR allowed me to control such things as shutter speed, aperture, and ISO (EC/Push/Pull). I spent some time in the darkroom in the '70s. After the first hour, I hated it. I don't mind at all paying someone else to do the 'dirty' work. Rest assured, I don't do anything serious with a camera; I can get by with the extremely substandard 35mm medium.

620 was the keeper. I think that once most cameras got to 24mp, the quality of most 35mm film was surpassed. If you want the experience of film, bigger negs are better— I'm backing up your desire for a Hasselblad. I wouldn't buy a 35mm film body today (except maybe the Canon 1V to use my EF lenses), but I've been trying to find a good Hasselblad 203. And, yeah, I'd be sending that film out to get done.

Back on point, someone else nailed it before— you might not see much gain in FF. You'd get a bigger boost in everything from a bigger neg though. Keep your 80D, upgrade the 35mm film camera.