Jonesin' for a full frame body.

mcluckie wrote in post #18600013
620 was the keeper

Still have it. Brownie Hawkeye Flash. Hasn't had film in it since about 1973.

Bassat wrote in post #18598923
Help me, please. I made a conscious decision to sell my 6D about 2 months ago.

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Then some heinous cad posts that the 6D is on sale (refurbished) for $899. Which got me looking at Canon's refurbished site, which drew me to a refurbished 6D2. Seems like $1499 is a reasonable price for a 6D2. WTH! Why am I doing this? Someone help me, please. My G.A.S. is back.

I don't know why you are considering this. Based on this post and a great number of the other posts you have made over the past year or so, it seems like you may put too much thought into the gear that you use. I see you continually writing things about cameras and lenses, but very rarely do I see you writing about subject matter, the details of composition, your photographic style, etc.

As long as you are focused on what gear you use I think you will miss out on what photography is supposed to be all about - the creative process and the art itself. . The photos. . After all, it is called photography, not cameragraphy.

A week ago you determined that a full frame digital camera would not allow you to best accomplish your photographic objectives. . What has changed between then and now? . The price of a camera does not affect how useful it is to you with respect to what you are trying to accomplish with your imagery. . Have your photographic objectives completely changed within the past week?

It is good to be consistent in thought and in goals. . If one is double-minded, and thinks one way about something one month, and then thinks a different way about it now, and then thinks yet another way about it in the near future ...... well, what does that lead to? . Just a bunch of helter-skelter aborted attempts at who knows what?

After "knowing" you for a couple of years, I am still not really sure just what it is that you are trying to do with your photography. . I don't see this cohesive, unified vision about the body of work that you are aspiring to create.

Perhaps your real interest is in camera gear itself, more so than in the actual images that you create. . If that is indeed the case, then these continual changes in mindset about what camera to use makes sense.

In fact, the more that I consider this possibility, the more that I think it may be the case. . In another thread, you briefly discussed the process of photography. . When you discussed it, you mentioned camera settings and so forth - things that directly relate with operating the camera. . You did not discuss the way that you approach a scene, what compositional elements you want to include and which you want to exclude, the nuances of your subject's "look" and how it changes from moment to moment, etc.

So it seems that perhaps to you, a big part of photography is operating the camera ...... perhaps this is an even bigger thing to you than creating the perfect scene and perfecting the composition, the light, etc. . In other words, it seems that your focus is more on the camera than it is on the photo. . If this is the case, then your constant gear indecisiveness is actually sensible.


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #18600029
I don't know why you are considering this. Based on this post and a great number of the other posts you have made over the past year or so, it seems like you may put too much thought into the gear that you use. I see you continually writing things about cameras and lenses, but very rarely do I see you writing about subject matter, the details of composition, your photographic style, etc.

As long as you are focused on what gear you use I think you will miss out on what photography is supposed to be all about - the creative process and the art itself. . The photos. . After all, it is called photography, not cameragraphy.

A week ago you determined that a full frame digital camera would not allow you to best accomplish your photographic objectives. . What has changed between then and now? . The price of a camera does not affect how useful it is to you with respect to what you are trying to accomplish with your imagery. . Have your photographic objectives completely changed within the past week?

It is good to be consistent in thought and in goals. . If one is double-minded, and thinks one way about something one month, and then thinks a different way about it now, and then thinks yet another way about it in the near future ...... well, what does that lead to? . Just a bunch of helter-skelter aborted attempts at who knows what?

After "knowing" you for a couple of years, I am still not really sure just what it is that you are trying to do with your photography. . I don't see this cohesive, unified vision about the body of work that you are aspiring to create.

Perhaps your real interest is in camera gear itself, more so than in the actual images that you create. . If that is indeed the case, then these continual changes in mindset about what camera to use makes sense.

In fact, the more that I consider this possibility, the more that I think it may be the case. . In another thread, you briefly discussed the process of photography. . When you discussed it, you mentioned camera settings and so forth - things that directly relate with operating the camera. . You did not discuss the way that you approach a scene, what compositional elements you want to include and which you want to exclude, the nuances of your subject's "look" and how it changes from moment to moment, etc.

So it seems that perhaps to you, a big part of photography is operating the camera ...... perhaps this is an even bigger thing to you than creating the perfect scene and perfecting the composition, the light, etc. . In other words, it seems that your focus is more on the camera than it is on the photo. . If this is the case, then your constant gear indecisiveness is actually sensible.

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Tom, thanks for the very thoughtful reply. I do believe you are correct about the 'gear' aspect of things. I've always been a snap-shooter. I have no real photographic goals. I don't pursue any particular style. Snap-shooter, plain and simple. I document the ordinary, everyday lives of my ordinary, everyday family. The curse is that I can afford to be constantly buying/selling gear.

You may have read this before. I started my photographic journey when I was about 8 years old. My mother gave me a P&S camera (Brownie Hawkeye Flash). I was fascinated by it. The mechanics of it. The process of loading film, installing a flash bulb, releasing the shutter. I examined it, thoroughly, inside and out. I loved loading film into it. I anticipated family trips to the beach, camping, visiting a local park. I took that camera with me everywhere. The greatest part of all it was when I got the photos back from the drug store. REVELATIONS! What had I gotten? I looked at those photos completely mesmerized. There is dad starting a fire at the campground. Look at mom, making sandwiches at Kugler's Beach. I felt like I had captured a little bit of the subject's soul. My camera lets me stop time, to preserve a moment that will never come again, to travel back to that moment any time I wish, by simply thumbing through old prints. I've never once thumbed through the thousands of shots on my computer.

In the long run, it doesn't matter which camera I use. I know that. 95% of my photography could be done with the all manual Yashica FX-D I just bought. Until about 2009, when my last Yaschica FX3 tossed the shutter, it was. 95% of the last 5% may require my Elan 7NE for its auto-focus abilities. Off hand, I can't really think of any reason, besides convenience, to own a digital camera at all. However, if I shot as much film as I do digital, I'd be in the poorhouse paying for it all. Digital allows me to snap away frivolously, without added cost.

I specifically sold the 6D to finance my (temporary?) foray back into film. I'm looking to re-capture some of the 'magic' of photography from my younger days. I don't need a full frame digital camera. Putting all this down in words has relieved me of the 'need' to buy another piece of gear. Thanks to all who have helped me realize that. Good therapy, right here on POTN!

Bassat wrote in post #18598923
Why am I doing this? Someone help me, please. My G.A.S. is back.

Relax, what you're doing is completely normal. You want to enjoy the full range of experiences that photography has to offer.
As long as the costs are within your budget and not a financial burden, then go for it. Have fun!

I'm sure it's less expensive and time consuming than drinking, gambling, and chasing wild women.

buy a used 5D3, be happy

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #18600084
Relax, what you're doing is completely normal. You want to enjoy the full range of experiences that photography has to offer.
As long as the costs are within your budget and not a financial burden, then go for it. Have fun!

I'm sure it's less expensive and time consuming than drinking, gambling, and chasing wild women.

So you've actually tried drinking, gambling, and chasing loose women? Simultaneously?

No, I'm not spending grocery money on camera gear. Though my waist might benefit some if I did!

Bassat wrote in post #18600097
So you've actually tried drinking, gambling, and chasing loose women? Simultaneously?

It's a bit difficult to do them simultaneously, although it can be a helluva lot of fun trying.