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Apr 02, 2018 16:02 |  #1

Well, she wants mine, but that's not happening. She's always been somewhat artistic. Yesterday I let her use my 5D3 with 50/1.4 in Tv mode to keep the shutter speed reasonable. I taught her how to half-press the shutter to focus and use exposure compensation and she caught on surprisingly quickly. She figured out image review and moving the focus point on her own.

I'm thinking of looking for something used to let her use so I don't have to keep re-configuring my camera every time she wants to use it. Either she'll get it out of her system and I'll sell it or she'll continue and upgrade at some point. Either way, I'd like to keep the cost down.

I'm a Canon shooter but am open to any brands. While she claims the camera isn't too big for her, it obviously is. Something like a Fuji X100 would probably be ideal (compact, straightforward controls, fixed prime lens) but they're still a bit pricey. Old Rebels and thrifty 50's are dirt cheap, but the focal length is a bit long for an only lens on a crop sensor and the Rebel might still be too big. The EF-S 24 STM is pretty cheap though but I've never used it. Maybe an older micro 4/3rds or Fuji body? But the lenses are more expensive. She wants a viewfinder (either EVF or OVF) after seeing how hard an LCD is to see in sunlight. She does like the big LCD indoors though.




  
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Apr 02, 2018 16:16 |  #2

I would save and wait until she a bit older and get her a used 6d, which is not that expensive.




  
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Apr 02, 2018 16:17 |  #3

Grab the SL1 (or SL2 depending on your budget / future-proofing that you want to do) and the 24mm f/2.8 pancake lens for pretty cheap. That combo should allow for a small-ish camera set while sticking to Canon (which may be a mixed blessing when she starts reaching for other lenses to try out). Unless you want to get a whole new set of lenses along with the camera for her, sticking to your brand would allow her to borrow.

Just want to add that there shouldn't be any qualms about giving her the 24mm 2.8... while a pancake, it focuses accurately and fast enough to keep up with most subjects in my use. The STM motor in the pancake lenses (40mm & 24mm) are noisier than other STM lenses for video usage. The nice thing about using the pancake lenses is that they add so little weight that your little one won't be off balance handling the camera while running around (and we all know how little ones run around with stuff in their hands even when told not to).


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Apr 02, 2018 16:19 |  #4

How about a Rebel with a 40mm? I've found it to be a reasonable length for general photography, and makes a nice compact setup.

But sticking with a system that can share your lenses does seem like the sensible thing to do in my mind. While it may be a decade or so of her borrowing your lenses, eventually there may come a time that you'll start to borrow some of hers in return if you both stick with EOS.


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Apr 02, 2018 16:26 |  #5

Last summer, I bought my grandson, then 7, a used XSi/18-55 IS for $75. He loves it. Get her something she can grow into, and upgrade from. And hey, she can use your lenses!


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Apr 02, 2018 16:37 |  #6

Bassat wrote in post #18599000 (external link)
Last summer, I bought my grandson, then 7, a used XSi/18-55 IS for $75. He loves it. Get her something she can grow into, and upgrade from. And hey, she can use your lenses!

Wow that's a heck of a deal. Yeah I definitely want something that has more room for growth/learning than a typical P&S camera.




  
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Apr 02, 2018 16:45 |  #7

Yeah, I got it from someone who just wanted to move it. Twice that would still be a fair price for an old Rebel in good condition, with a lens.


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Apr 02, 2018 22:12 |  #8

At this age kids are so creative they could do it with basic tool. Classic digital P&S will do. I have 16MP Canon PowerShot A1400 HD purchased for 20CAD. It has real VF and LCD screen. Using two regular batteries.
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Apr 02, 2018 22:18 |  #9

Luckless wrote in post #18598997 (external link)
How about a Rebel with a 40mm? I've found it to be a reasonable length for general photography, and makes a nice compact setup.

But sticking with a system that can share your lenses does seem like the sensible thing to do in my mind. While it may be a decade or so of her borrowing your lenses, eventually there may come a time that you'll start to borrow some of hers in return if you both stick with EOS.

Precisely. Rebels come in a host of flavors and prices. Also, like Bassat said, the 18-55 would be ideal too. Maybe get both and teach her the discipline of a prime and versatility of a zoom


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Apr 02, 2018 23:38 |  #10

Based on experience with our daughter I suggest setting a price cap and from there letting her choose with as much or little parental advice she wants. That makes it her camera.


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Apr 03, 2018 00:02 |  #11

AZGeorge wrote in post #18599216 (external link)
Based on experience with our daughter I suggest setting a price cap and from there letting her choose with as much or little parental advice she wants. That makes it her camera.

How does a 7 year old choose a camera? Did you take her to a store to touch and feel? It's not like she's going research it like an adult would.




  
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Apr 03, 2018 06:24 |  #12

kf095 wrote in post #18599184 (external link)
At this age kids are so creative they could do it with basic tool. Classic digital P&S will do. I have 16MP Canon PowerShot A1400 HD purchased for 20CAD. It has real VF and LCD screen. Using two regular batteries.

Disagree. She may pick up comp & framing, but there is nothing to learn about creative control on a P&S. Of course, that can always come later, at the expense of buying another (real) camera. If she can get by with an A1400, let her use your phone.

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Precisely. Rebels come in a host of flavors and prices. Also, like Bassat said, the 18-55 would be ideal too. Maybe get both and teach her the discipline of a prime and versatility of a zoom

The best way to teach a child is to let them discover it for themselves. Guide/introduce/demons​trate when the child is ready. Start 'teaching' and you'll turn them off for sure.

AZGeorge wrote in post #18599216 (external link)
Based on experience with our daughter I suggest setting a price cap and from there letting her choose with as much or little parental advice she wants. That makes it her camera.

Disagree. Good answer below. A 7 year-old girl would likely choose 'the pink one'.

mike_d wrote in post #18599223 (external link)
How does a 7 year old choose a camera? Did you take her to a store to touch and feel? It's not like she's going research it like an adult would.


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Apr 03, 2018 07:23 |  #13

wunhang wrote in post #18598992 (external link)
Grab the SL1 (or SL2 depending on your budget

This. All the rest of wunhang's post too, but especially this. My SL1 is perfect for my boys. I am lusting after the 2 it's image quality is significantly better.

You might even find yourself wanting to use the SL2 from time to time.


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Apr 03, 2018 09:19 |  #14

This is why I kept my 50D and 50mm. It's not worth selling, so I keep it around to see if any kids develop an interest.


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Apr 03, 2018 11:04 |  #15

mike_d wrote in post #18599223 (external link)
How does a 7 year old choose a camera? Did you take her to a store to touch and feel? It's not like she's going research it like an adult would.

Pretty much like choosing a bike or a winter coat except for better access to data.

We hit three or four stores.

The hard part was doing my best to make it her choice and just guiding her with questions. What do you like about it? What don't you like?

The downside, of course, is that teaching a young daughter to think for herself results in grown daughter who thinks for herself. <G>


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