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Apr 08, 2018 19:48 |  #1

So I'm fairly new to photography, (only been doing it for a month-ish) but have been reading up like a mad man on everything. I went and took shots of my daughter today and was using the manual focus feature on my Canon 5D mkIII. Both my wife and I experienced this problem and we both can NOT figure it out. Where ever we focused, using the manual joystick, it would take pictures BELOW where we focused. She was originally using a 70-200mm F2.8 IS L, but then switched to a 24-70mm F2.8 IS L, then went to a 50mm 1.4.

I on the other hand stuck with the 85mm F1.2 L the entire day.

We got home and brought the pictures up on the screen and they all looked like this...



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As you can see it seemed to focus on the front part of her legs/dress and not her face.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.



  
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Apr 08, 2018 19:55 |  #2

EXIF data would be extremely helpful.


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Apr 08, 2018 19:58 |  #3

Jethr0 wrote in post #18602737 (external link)
EXIF data would be extremely helpful.

I have no clue what you asked for, so I googled it....hope this helps?

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Apr 08, 2018 20:00 |  #4

It's not far off. Her foremost hand is out of focus so the DOF is pretty close to her face. Could be just a micro focus adjust issue. Every lens can be adjusted differently if you wish, or I think you can apply the same adjustment to everything. You can find the option in the settings (sorry, don't recall exactly which menu).




  
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Apr 08, 2018 20:04 |  #5

Green highlighted info would help.


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Apr 08, 2018 20:12 as a reply to  @ Jethr0's post |  #6

Focal length - 50 mm
Exposure - 1/8000 sec
F/1.4
ISO - 500
AP MODE
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Apr 08, 2018 20:56 |  #7

F1.4....the depth of field will be very shallow....which is why your little one is not sharp.
Why 1.4?


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Apr 08, 2018 21:03 as a reply to  @ Jethr0's post |  #8

Honestly, that's a setting Im letting the camera adjust for now. I'm shooting in AV mode so I can learn the ISO adjustments right now.




  
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Apr 08, 2018 21:05 |  #9

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Apr 08, 2018 21:31 |  #10

jhaywald wrote in post #18602784 (external link)
Honestly, that's a setting Im letting the camera adjust for now. I'm shooting in AV mode so I can learn the ISO adjustments right now.

Av mode is actually the mode where the user chooses the aperture.

In today's photography world, ISO is the setting that has the least effect on the final image ... as long as your other settings are not impacted by a bad ISO choice. Shutter Speed (SS) will help freeze, or show movement in the photo. Aperture willl provide more or less Depth of Field (DOF), which is the area that is in, or out of focus.

Set aperture to 2.8 or 3.5 until you get use to the exposure triangle and maybe perform auto focus micronadjust


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Apr 08, 2018 21:53 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #11

Annnnnnnnnd, I feel stupid. Thank you. I got caught up in changing the ISO, I COMPLETELY forgot about the aperture adjustment....and the fact that I thought the AV mode allowed me to change the ISO, not the aperture.




  
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Apr 09, 2018 06:53 |  #12

Back in the old days, ISO was tied to film so the decision of what ISO to use was made first and you were kind of stuck with it until the next roll. There are some situations where constantly changing ISO makes perfect sense, but for relatively consistent light, and especially for beginners, choose an ISO and concentrate on changing aperture and shutter speed. Once you have experience and confidence with those two settings it will make sense why you would want to change ISO.


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Apr 09, 2018 07:29 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #13

Thanks, I'm going to go back today and try it again.




  
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Apr 09, 2018 08:10 |  #14

If you want to manually focus, I suggest using Live View and then use the zoom feature to put the zoom on the subject, then focus your lens using that 5x view. Make sure that you have removed AF from the shutter button, or move the lens to MF (manual focus). Might be easier than to use the viewfinder to think you have focus obtained.

Quite frankly though, I would think using AF is better, it will teach you more about how the camera operates. You could move the AF point being used to the outer edges for a static subject, and have it AF there for you. Using the 85L during MF is quite tough, because you will be trying to set focus at f1.2 despite whatever aperture you set for the actual shot, and often this means a very thin focus area.


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Apr 09, 2018 08:29 |  #15

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If you want to manually focus, I suggest using Live View and then use the zoom feature to put the zoom on the subject, then focus your lens using that 5x view. Make sure that you have removed AF from the shutter button, or move the lens to MF (manual focus). Might be easier than to use the viewfinder to think you have focus obtained.

Quite frankly though, I would think using AF is better, it will teach you more about how the camera operates. You could move the AF point being used to the outer edges for a static subject, and have it AF there for you. Using the 85L during MF is quite tough, because you will be trying to set focus at f1.2 despite whatever aperture you set for the actual shot, and often this means a very thin focus area.

My assumption is that OP use of "manual" meant manually choosing the focus point or zone and letting the camera do the rest.


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