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Apr 19, 2018 10:37 |  #1

Hey,


So I am thinking of selling my 50mm 1.2 L lens and getting the new 85mm 1.4 L lens.

Whats your opinion on the new 85?!




  
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Apr 20, 2018 04:32 |  #2

Apart from 16 degrees less angle of view and four stops of image stabilization, what won't the 50L do that think the 85 will?




  
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Apr 20, 2018 04:55 |  #3

Well I traded my 85 1.2 for the 1.4 and have no regrets.


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May 01, 2018 15:27 |  #4

sold both 50L and 85ii for 85IS. much happier with the results. super lens.




  
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May 01, 2018 16:19 |  #5

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sold both 50L and 85ii for 85IS. much happier with the results. super lens.

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May 01, 2018 16:35 |  #6

I don't want either, nor will I buy either but I do know the 50L is a lens I wouldn't own :-P


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May 06, 2018 18:12 as a reply to  @ artsf's post |  #7

So what did you find out in regards to the 85 1.2 ii vs the 1.4 that made you change? I am having issues deciding because the 1.2II has come way down in price in the used market vs. the 1500 for the 1.4. Since I am also looking for a 24-70 V2 lens it is really hard to decide on what to get first.

Any advice on making the jump will be appreciated.

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May 07, 2018 23:14 |  #8

dmead516 wrote in post #18620786 (external link)
So what did you find out in regards to the 85 1.2 ii vs the 1.4 that made you change? I am having issues deciding because the 1.2II has come way down in price in the used market vs. the 1500 for the 1.4. Since I am also looking for a 24-70 V2 lens it is really hard to decide on what to get first.

Any advice on making the jump will be appreciated.

thanks

I got the 1.4 as it is better suited to outdoor use.

As for the 24-70 mk2 I assume you mean the 2.8.
I had one and it was really good optically but I found the focal range to be a bit short. Not overly wide on full frame, not really long at the long end and no IS. It's not particularly fast either compared to 50mm and 85mm options.


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May 14, 2018 07:40 |  #9

I've owned the 50L for nearly five years and it's probably my favorite lens. I recently sold the 85LII, replaced it with the new 85/1.4 and find it to be sharper, lighter and the IS comes in handy when I'm shooting at slower shutter speeds. If I had to choose between the two, I'd go with the 50L.


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May 14, 2018 15:27 |  #10

dmead516 wrote in post #18620786 (external link)
So what did you find out in regards to the 85 1.2 ii vs the 1.4 that made you change? I am having issues deciding because the 1.2II has come way down in price in the used market vs. the 1500 for the 1.4. Since I am also looking for a 24-70 V2 lens it is really hard to decide on what to get first.

Any advice on making the jump will be appreciated.

thanks

The results are similar between 85ii and 85IS, even bokeh is closely matched. 85IS is quite a bit sharper, has stronger color, faster AF, IS and better ergonomically. For just stills, 85ii is fine especially at a bargain price, used. My driver for upgrade was video, I needed IS and modern AF for slow and quiter continous DPAF transitions. I do find that 85IS is not great against bright light, not sure if it’s because a short hood or lens design but I remember 85ii did better in that regard and I never used hood with it.




  
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May 16, 2018 17:40 |  #11

I've owned the 50L for about 7 years, and it has been a favorite mine for almost as long. Just recently I picked up the new 85 f/1.4L; well, today actually, and I wanted to weigh in on this thread. As we all know, the 50L look is right out of Dream Land, it lends that sweet, unique look to photos that most other lenses can't. The new lens isn't in the same category as the 50L, at all: completely different focal length, different purposes for the lens, different look of the photos. No way I would give up a 50mm for an 85mm, or vice versa.

I was torn on what 85L to get. Did I want to add the gorgeous 85L f/1.2 to my 50L/135L cadre of melty-look primes, or would I add some better performance and forgo a little of that "magic", more in line with my 100L and 70-200 II? As I took my first test shots with the new f/1.4L, I felt that buyer's remorse that we all know and hate: maybe I should have gone with the f/1.2L. Oh crap... does this new lens look too clinical, is it boring?

Later on, I took a number of shots of my doggo, so I could capture some actual subjects instead of random house stuff, and the "personality" of the new lens is starting to emerge. To me, it's like they took the 100L and toned down a lot of the clinical look with a 135L eraser. The colors and contrast are similar to the 24-70 II. AF is fast and sure, the IS = vice-like. SHARP, much more sharp than the 50L and a little bit sharper than the 135L.

In closing, I feel that this new 85L "look" lands smack-dab in the middle of the artsy|clinical scale, and to me that's a perfect blend.

Here's some shots from both lenses :)

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/24tJ​4gW  (external link) Maddie w/ the 50mm f/1.2L (external link) by M K (external link), on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/24tJ​3qh  (external link) Maddie w/ the 85mm f/1.4L (external link) by M K (external link), on Flickr

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May 18, 2018 17:52 as a reply to  @ MatthewK's post |  #12

Love it! Would also love to see more shots you have taken with the 85 1.4!




  
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Jun 05, 2018 16:41 |  #13

I've been shooting around with the new 85L for a couple of weeks now. Lens is sharp, even wide open, more than sharp enough for my needs. Haven't had any AF problems with it either; a couple of people over on FM report inconsistent accuracy in AI Servo, and that using the Single Point AF w/ 4 point expansion seems to work better.

Anyways, here's one I wanted to share: my wife going to the baby shower last weekend :-)


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Jun 06, 2018 01:40 |  #14

MatthewK wrote in post #18639845 (external link)
I've been shooting around with the new 85L for a couple of weeks now. Lens is sharp, even wide open, more than sharp enough for my needs. Haven't had any AF problems with it either; a couple of people over on FM report inconsistent accuracy in AI Servo, and that using the Single Point AF w/ 4 point expansion seems to work better.

Anyways, here's one I wanted to share: my wife going to the baby shower last weekend :-)


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My 85 1.4 AF is a bit inconsistent although I had attributed that to my technique rather than the lens.
That said, I get more keepers with it than the 85 1.2.


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Jun 06, 2018 05:28 |  #15

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My 85 1.4 AF is a bit inconsistent although I had attributed that to my technique rather than the lens.
That said, I get more keepers with it than the 85 1.2.

Same here; I feel that if I am missing an odd shot here and there while shooting wide open f/1.4, that's to be expected due to the thin DOF, so I'm not at all concerned. The lens performs marvelously, no complaints at all. Still need some more time shooting with it!


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