Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
Thread started 26 Jun 2018 (Tuesday) 11:48
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Godox Xpro vs. Godox V860II as a remote

 
GESWhoPhoto
Member
Avatar
94 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Sep 2017
Location: St. Augustine, FL (USA)
Post edited 5 months ago by GESWhoPhoto.
     
Jun 26, 2018 11:48 |  #1

Hey all!

I am moving over to the Godox lighting system, at the recommendation of many of the photographers here, as well as the interweb's generally awesome feedback on Godox products.

Currently, I have 2x V860II-N flashes and a Xpro-N remote. I am going to expand my event/wedding lighting kit to about 4x V860II-N flashes, probably a Flashpoint XPLOR 600PRO or two, and maybe some AD200/AD360s.

My question to all here is whether it is necessary for me to hold on to my Xpro-N remote, if I plan to use so many V860II-N flashes. I guess this would better be described with a few "sub-questions":

1. Does the Xpro-N offer the exact same capabilities as a V860II-N in master mode?
2. Am I losing any features by using a V860II-N to control other flashes, versus the Xpro-N?
3. Are there any convenience factors I'm missing that you have experienced with the Xpro-N that are superior to just using a V860II-N to control the other lights?
4. I'm guessing the battery life would be better using the V860II-N as the remote, considering the Li-ion battery pack. Anybody have any opinions on this?

Obviously, the remote is cheaper than another V860II-N, but I'm thinking by the time my light kit is complete, I'll have a couple of V860II-Ns to throw on my cameras for use solely as extra on-camera flash/remote combos. So not a huge concern... especially considering Black Friday deals are probably going to be pretty great this year on Godox/Flashpoint.

Thank you all in advance for any feedback you have to offer! I know I could spend hours combing forums for some of these answers, but I'd rather hear it straight from seasoned pros! :-)


V/r, Garrett
Current:
D850 | D750 | MB-D16 | Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 E FL ED VR | Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 E VR | Nikon 105 f/2.8 G VR Macro | Rokinon 12mm f/2.8 Fisheye | Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 | 5x Godox V860II-N | 1x Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
ksbal
Goldmember
Avatar
2,683 posts
Gallery: 359 photos
Best ofs: 9
Likes: 2175
Joined Sep 2010
Location: N.E. Kansas
     
Jun 26, 2018 12:49 |  #2

Hmm... I'm a user, and have to admit I never considered using one of my 860vII (flashpoint brand) as the master for all the rest. I got a Xpro transmitter.
I'm not sure you can control the strobes from an 860vII -- if you can, it must have limited functions - I can turn my modeling lights on and off from my xpro for example.

This weekend I used my strobes for key and kickers, and then a flash for a bg light, all controlled on the xpro on the camera. I have speedlights, ad200, and 400w strobes I can control thru the xpro, but now I'll have to see what I can do with the 860vii on the camera as master, hmmm....


Godox/Flashpoint r2 system, plus some canon stuff.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
GESWhoPhoto
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
94 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Sep 2017
Location: St. Augustine, FL (USA)
     
Jun 26, 2018 12:56 as a reply to  @ ksbal's post |  #3

I believe you commented on a post I saw and/or started earlier on what lighting kit to look at! You influenced me to look into the Godox system. :-P

If you don't mind sharing your opinions once you've tested it, I'd love to hear them!


V/r, Garrett
Current:
D850 | D750 | MB-D16 | Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 E FL ED VR | Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 E VR | Nikon 105 f/2.8 G VR Macro | Rokinon 12mm f/2.8 Fisheye | Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 | 5x Godox V860II-N | 1x Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ksbal
Goldmember
Avatar
2,683 posts
Gallery: 359 photos
Best ofs: 9
Likes: 2175
Joined Sep 2010
Location: N.E. Kansas
     
Jun 26, 2018 13:02 as a reply to  @ GESWhoPhoto's post |  #4

I'm reading online now, and while I see diagrams and info on the speedlights talking to each other, I'm not seeing where the speedlight would talk to the strobe and ad200's. So hopefully someone has explored this and will chime in.
As far as durability, I've dropped a couple on concrete, had the wind take a strobe or two down, and so far I haven't broke anything after 6+ months, and I love the flexibility. I'll see if I can do some testing this weekend.


Godox/Flashpoint r2 system, plus some canon stuff.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
GESWhoPhoto
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
94 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Sep 2017
Location: St. Augustine, FL (USA)
     
Jun 26, 2018 13:08 as a reply to  @ ksbal's post |  #5

As far as I am seeing here, it looks like it IS possible!

http://flashhavoc.com/​godox-flash-system-overview/ (external link)

BUT, I'm not sure if there are any loss of features or convenience concerns doing it that way.


V/r, Garrett
Current:
D850 | D750 | MB-D16 | Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 E FL ED VR | Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 E VR | Nikon 105 f/2.8 G VR Macro | Rokinon 12mm f/2.8 Fisheye | Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 | 5x Godox V860II-N | 1x Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeamSpeed
01010100 01010011
Avatar
34,738 posts
Gallery: 94 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 4569
Joined May 2002
Location: Northern Indiana
     
Jun 26, 2018 13:19 |  #6

If you need to use a flash on camera, then you should be able to control everything with the flash. However the XPRO is a bit more compact and actually a bit easier to use regarding group management than the flash. If your time is valuable and you find using the XPRO is easier, then $70 seems like it would have a pretty quick ROI.


Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery (external link) My Business Gallery (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
GESWhoPhoto
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
94 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Sep 2017
Location: St. Augustine, FL (USA)
     
Jun 26, 2018 13:40 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #7

Very cool! Glad to hear it will work!

My main considerations were that the V860IIs I have on-camera would not only serve as the remote, but also a backup if one of my other flashes were to break/malfunction. Another plus would be that I wouldn't have to worry about carrying around AA batteries as back-up for the Xpro, since the V860IIs all use the Li-ion battery.

Decisions, decisions!


V/r, Garrett
Current:
D850 | D750 | MB-D16 | Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 E FL ED VR | Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 E VR | Nikon 105 f/2.8 G VR Macro | Rokinon 12mm f/2.8 Fisheye | Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 | 5x Godox V860II-N | 1x Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
nixland
Senior Member
505 posts
Likes: 169
Joined Apr 2009
     
Jun 26, 2018 14:03 |  #8

Using transmitter also put less stress to the hotshoe and obviously less weight :)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
GESWhoPhoto
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
94 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Sep 2017
Location: St. Augustine, FL (USA)
     
Jun 26, 2018 14:10 as a reply to  @ nixland's post |  #9

Plus easier not to get it snagged on something! That's a good consideration.


V/r, Garrett
Current:
D850 | D750 | MB-D16 | Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 E FL ED VR | Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 E VR | Nikon 105 f/2.8 G VR Macro | Rokinon 12mm f/2.8 Fisheye | Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 | 5x Godox V860II-N | 1x Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
inkista
Senior Member
Avatar
595 posts
Likes: 65
Joined Oct 2007
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Post edited 5 months ago by inkista.
     
Jun 26, 2018 18:02 |  #10

Just me, but I don't think the V860II as a radio master can do Groups D&E (let alone 0-9) or TCM. Also don't think it can control the Zoom on speedlights or modeling lights on the strobes.


I'm a woman. I shoot with a Fuji X100T, Panasonic GX-7, Canon 5DmkII, and 50D. flickr stream (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SamFrench
Senior Member
Avatar
861 posts
Likes: 58
Joined Jul 2011
Location: Pacific Northwest
     
Jun 26, 2018 19:11 |  #11

inkista wrote in post #18651953 (external link)
Just me, but I don't think the V860II as a radio master can do Groups D&E (let alone 0-9) or TCM. Also don't think it can control the Zoom on speedlights or modeling lights on the strobes.

The XPRO does have a different yet partially overlapping feature set with the Godox speedlites and transmitter / triggers. Individual users may feel that for the relatively small investment, having a few options will provide for a greatly enhanced user experience over a wide range of different use scenarios and provide for backup / redundancy that can be invaluable in getting the job done.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
GESWhoPhoto
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
94 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Sep 2017
Location: St. Augustine, FL (USA)
     
Jun 27, 2018 14:50 |  #12

inkista wrote in post #18651953 (external link)
Just me, but I don't think the V860II as a radio master can do Groups D&E (let alone 0-9) or TCM. Also don't think it can control the Zoom on speedlights or modeling lights on the strobes.

Solid points! Thank you very much! The Xpro can control the zoom on speedlights, though?


V/r, Garrett
Current:
D850 | D750 | MB-D16 | Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 E FL ED VR | Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 E VR | Nikon 105 f/2.8 G VR Macro | Rokinon 12mm f/2.8 Fisheye | Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 | 5x Godox V860II-N | 1x Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
GESWhoPhoto
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
94 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Sep 2017
Location: St. Augustine, FL (USA)
     
Jun 27, 2018 14:51 |  #13

SamFrench wrote in post #18651987 (external link)
The XPRO does have a different yet partially overlapping feature set with the Godox speedlites and transmitter / triggers. Individual users may feel that for the relatively small investment, having a few options will provide for a greatly enhanced user experience over a wide range of different use scenarios and provide for backup / redundancy that can be invaluable in getting the job done.

Hey! Thanks for chiming in! I was hoping for more detail on the overlapping/missing features, if you have any insights to share!


V/r, Garrett
Current:
D850 | D750 | MB-D16 | Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 E FL ED VR | Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 E VR | Nikon 105 f/2.8 G VR Macro | Rokinon 12mm f/2.8 Fisheye | Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 | 5x Godox V860II-N | 1x Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
inkista
Senior Member
Avatar
595 posts
Likes: 65
Joined Oct 2007
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
     
Jun 27, 2018 16:14 |  #14

GESWhoPhoto wrote in post #18652476 (external link)
Solid points! Thank you very much! The Xpro can control the zoom on speedlights, though?

Yes, if the speedlight is the TT685 or V860II and has its zoom set to Auto. The speedlight has to have its zoom set to Auto for the zooming-by-group control of the Xpro to work (so you won't actually see the zoom setting from the XPro on the speedlight's display), and the TT600/V850II don't have Auto-Zoom capability. I'm also not sure this works with the TT350/V350 as a slave. When I attempt it with any of my XPros (I have the -C/-F/-O versions) with my TT350-O, I can hear the flash tube moving back and forth inside the head, but it always seems to go back to the widest position. It definitely works with my TT685C, so I'd assume the V860II would also work.


I'm a woman. I shoot with a Fuji X100T, Panasonic GX-7, Canon 5DmkII, and 50D. flickr stream (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
GESWhoPhoto
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
Avatar
94 posts
Likes: 13
Joined Sep 2017
Location: St. Augustine, FL (USA)
     
Jun 27, 2018 19:00 |  #15

inkista wrote in post #18652510 (external link)
Yes, if the speedlight is the TT685 or V860II and has its zoom set to Auto. The speedlight has to have its zoom set to Auto for the zooming-by-group control of the Xpro to work (so you won't actually see the zoom setting from the XPro on the speedlight's display), and the TT600/V850II don't have Auto-Zoom capability. I'm also not sure this works with the TT350/V350 as a slave. When I attempt it with any of my XPros (I have the -C/-F/-O versions) with my TT350-O, I can hear the flash tube moving back and forth inside the head, but it always seems to go back to the widest position. It definitely works with my TT685C, so I'd assume the V860II would also work.

Oh man! Right on time with this knowledge! I was just wondering why my Xpro wasn’t controlling the zooms on my V860IIs, but I didn’t have them set to auto!  :p


V/r, Garrett
Current:
D850 | D750 | MB-D16 | Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 E FL ED VR | Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 E VR | Nikon 105 f/2.8 G VR Macro | Rokinon 12mm f/2.8 Fisheye | Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 | 5x Godox V860II-N | 1x Flashpoint XPLOR 600 PRO |

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

1,200 views & 7 likes for this thread
Godox Xpro vs. Godox V860II as a remote
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Byrdnest
781 guests, 367 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.