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Jul 06, 2018 07:56 |  #1

I placed an order with B&H. It didn't hit the $49 minimum for expedited shipping. They shipped it the day I placed the order, but FedEX is taking 7 business days to get it to Pennsylvania from NJ. FedEx might be better than UPS, but it is still lousy. Normally a shipment would get to me overnight. All of a sudden, I noticed that my packages would be on the truck for delivery, but then go back to the facility and get delivered the next day. When I called to inquire, I was told that since B&H didn't pay for overnight delivery, they held it an extra day, even though it was on the truck.


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Jul 06, 2018 08:02 |  #2

That is most likely an unfortunate answer from whomever answered the call. Most likely what happens is that a truck's route has all the mandatory items outlined for delivery for the day, and if the driver still has time available, the not so critical items get scheduled on the route. Chances are the driver ran out of time for the day, and since there still was a day left in the serviced paid for, it went back and the next day it becomes a mandatory delivery.

I am friends with a high level FedEx manager here locally, I can ask him if this is the case, but being in transportation and supply chain, I feel this is pretty close to the scenario that played out. Sounds like the person that answered you needs a bit of training in both customer service and the processes at FedEx.

Never assume the first person you talk to when you call a company's support line or front desk knows what the heck they are talking about. I have had to correct countless answers given by our helpdesk/support teams in the past decade to our customers with the real answer. It has been much better in the past few years, but for a while we had some really poor blokes answering the customer questions, just to get things off their plate.


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Jul 06, 2018 08:10 |  #3

I've seen something similar with FedEx in the past. TeamSpeed might be right about the why, however from recollection items seemingly just sit at a distribution hub for an extra day or two sometimes, which sure seems like one way to ensure they don't arrive early!

I can't say I've ever noticed the exact same behavior with UPS.


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Jul 06, 2018 09:29 |  #4

All of this shipping cr** mystifies me.


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Jul 06, 2018 09:33 |  #5

The problem is not with B&H or Fedex you chose the most economical shipping. In some cases UPS or Fedex will pick up the Item and
deliver it to the USPS for actual delivery. This method is your typical slow boat to China. I always try to meet the minimum for expedited shipping live and learn.




  
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Jul 07, 2018 05:44 as a reply to  @ Furlan's post |  #6

But FedEx has the package, not USPS. Even standard FedEx shipping should get my packages here faster. Oh, by the way, I'm not blaming B&H.


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While we're whining about delivery services, let me add this.

My driveway is 24 feet wide. At the street, I have two concrete pads (one either side) just off the drive with large flower pots on them. Our road is wide enough for two cars to pass comfortably at 60mph.

I get 2-3 UPS deliveries per week. UPS has never run over my flower pots. I regularly get USPS packages; our carrier parks in the driveway and puts the packages inside our garage. USPS has never run over my flower pots.

I get 3-4 FEDEX deliveries per year. That is at the house; I usually have them hold packages and pick them up when I'm in town. Of the last 4 FEDEX deliveries, my flower pots have been run over 3 time. I called to complain. The local distribution office called to discuss my complaint. I was unavailable; he left a message. When I called back less than an hour later, nobody had any record of my complaint, or of calling me. Two days later I got another FEDEX package, and one of my flower pots run over.

The kicker? All these drivers BACK INTO THE DRIVEWAY. The pots get run over while they are pulling OUT!




  
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Jul 08, 2018 06:18 |  #8

Additional information. The same day that I placed the order that was shipped from NJ via FedEx, I placed an order with another company out of Indiana. They shipped via USPS. Unbelievable to me, that order showed up yesterday, and I am still waiting for the FedEx order. What a joke. I also have a situation similar to @BASSAT. My driveway is sloped and about 100 feet long. It ends at a 2 car garage. Each bay has its own door with a 2 foot pillar in the middle. When you approach the garage from the driveway, the slope prohibits you from seeing the ground in front of the doors. They insist on leaving packages where my right front tire enters the garage, instead of leaving them in front of the pillar, or off to the side. Its makes no sense whatsoever. It is almost like they are deliberately doing stupid things.


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Jul 08, 2018 23:06 |  #9

I'll be curious to see if it really takes that long for it to arrive. It's almost like they are warehousing it for posterity's sake before moving it along.

I learned many many years ago, that the route for UPS from NYC/NJ area means even with plain jane UPS ground I get everything the day after the vendor ships it. We're 3-4 hours from Manhattan, maybe 4-5 from most big shipping warehouses in NJ., and the route is very well traveled being just short of Boston.


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Jul 09, 2018 09:06 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #10

That's how it has always been with B&H. I would always get my package the next day. In fact, they even used to show a banner that my area fell within the next day limit. They no longer show the banner. Oh well. I just have to be more vigilant about ordering items before it gets critical.


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Jul 09, 2018 09:24 |  #11

FWIW I've had something like this happen before, and what wound up going on was that the package was damaged and I eventually got an update showing that the package was shipped back to the shipper.




  
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Jul 11, 2018 14:23 |  #12

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I placed an order with B&H. It didn't hit the $49 minimum for expedited shipping. They shipped it the day I placed the order, but FedEX is taking 7 business days to get it to Pennsylvania from NJ. FedEx might be better than UPS, but it is still lousy. Normally a shipment would get to me overnight. All of a sudden, I noticed that my packages would be on the truck for delivery, but then go back to the facility and get delivered the next day. When I called to inquire, I was told that since B&H didn't pay for overnight delivery, they held it an extra day, even though it was on the truck.

I'm sorry for your dissatisfaction. The order I'm looking at was shipped 7/5 and delivered 7/9. The 7th and 8th were weekend days and aren't included in their ETA calendar. The shipping method was FedEx "SmartPost." The final leg of the delivery was handled by the USPS. We are certainly concerned about your satisfaction and appreciate this feedback.


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That's how it has always been with B&H. I would always get my package the next day. In fact, they even used to show a banner that my area fell within the next day limit. They no longer show the banner. Oh well. I just have to be more vigilant about ordering items before it gets critical.

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Jul 12, 2018 07:48 as a reply to  @ henryp's post |  #14

Yep. Not your fault at all Henry at B&H. I am well within the dark blue area, and I used to get my packages in one day. Not any more. I'm lucky if they come to me in three days now. This is a game that all of the shipping companies play. Not too long ago, I wanted to send prints to family in Alaska. FedEx wanted $60 and change to send a tube that was 4 inches in diameter and 24 inches long regular delivery, 7 to 10 business days. The USPS got the tube there in 3 business days for 8 bucks.

I credit B&H for getting items shipped out almost immediately, and doing a remarkable job on customer service. They are among the best companies I have dealt with, but they are being hamstrung by the shipping companies.


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Jul 12, 2018 07:51 |  #15

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I'm sorry for your dissatisfaction. The order I'm looking at was shipped 7/5 and delivered 7/9. The 7th and 8th were weekend days and aren't included in their ETA calendar. The shipping method was FedEx "SmartPost." The final leg of the delivery was handled by the USPS. We are certainly concerned about your satisfaction and appreciate this feedback.

Yes. My post seemed like I was blaming you. I did, in fact get it in 4 days. The FedEx tracking at it estimated at 10 days. Please see my above post. You folks at B&H do a fantastic job with both customer service and getting items shipped. I apologize for the way I wrote the post, making it seem like this was your fault. I am in no way dissatisfied with B&H Photo!


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