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Jul 09, 2018 10:00 |  #16

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #18659119 (external link)
Did you zoom in to a 100% by clicking the glasses? That is what I need to do to make the plugin work.

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Jul 09, 2018 10:18 as a reply to  @ Archibald's post |  #17

That was the only thing I could think of. I'm sorry it doesn't work.


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Jul 09, 2018 10:21 |  #18

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #18659139 (external link)
That was the only thing I could think of. I'm sorry it doesn't work.

Heh, no problem! It's not your fault, and it was a good idea!


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Jul 12, 2018 19:21 |  #19

Archibald wrote in post #18658537 (external link)
More EXIF info would certainly be useful at times. But many posters strip the EXIF data from their pics. We need to encourage folks to leave the EXIF in.

Many editing programs, especially free programs, do not pass EXIF to the final image.
It'd be nice, but there's no forcing each and every editing program to pass it on.


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Jul 12, 2018 19:24 |  #20

Canonuser123 wrote in post #18658636 (external link)
I used to use a browser plugin that would give EXIF info, the one I used might not work with newer Windows and I don’t know about Mac software options but there may be others making them. I used Opanda IExif.

The Opera web browser used to have a built-in right-click option to view EXIF, but that's gone.
Sad that there are so few options today...


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Jul 13, 2018 02:46 |  #21

SkedAddled wrote in post #18661500 (external link)
The Opera web browser used to have a built-in right-click option to view EXIF, but that's gone.
Sad that there are so few options today...

I know that it is possible to use Chrome extensions with Opera, there might be a EXIF viewer extension for Chrome.




  
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Jul 13, 2018 13:57 |  #22

Lester Wareham wrote in post #18658437 (external link)
The EXIF listing on posted images is very handy.

I have noticed a few times, when trying offer advice to someone experiencing problems, it hampers that advice not being able to see all the EXIF info, like if AF was used for example, if flash fired, the focus mode etc.

Something that might be handy is a popup to list all the available EXIF data, perhaps via a little button a bit like the spectacles for 100% view.

I appreciate this would be difficult to code for all the possible cases, a simple default text output from Exiftool would be fine but might have licencing issues.

I'll see what I can do.

Getting EXIF is quite easy (Exiftool can be used), parsing it to usable format is also not a big task, but to read exif the image must be downloaded to server which in turn needs caching or other storage. I think the sensible way to add this would be like the histogram works at the moment (hover/tap image -> click a command button -> image is retrieved -> the data is parsed and shown -> data is cached for that image).

I do not see the value for showing all items, so please discuss for a list of items that would be useful:

flash mode
metering mode
exposure program
white balance mode
location
date taken
copyright
title
tags
subject
??

About location: as shooting location might be sensible information, I am planning to add a member tool "remove location data from my uploaded images". With above EXIF view feature, member should also be able to deny location parsing (to a map location for example). Same applies to copyright notice, which may reveal member's real name (some may not wish that), or does it matter?


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Jul 13, 2018 18:20 |  #23

Pekka wrote in post #18662021 (external link)
I'll see what I can do.

Getting EXIF is quite easy (Exiftool can be used), parsing it to usable format is also not a big task, but to read exif the image must be downloaded to server which in turn needs caching or other storage. I think the sensible way to add this would be like the histogram works at the moment (hover/tap image -> click a command button -> image is retrieved -> the data is parsed and shown -> data is cached for that image).

I do not see the value for showing all items, so please discuss for a list of items that would be useful:

flash mode
metering mode
exposure program
white balance mode
location
date taken
copyright
title
tags
subject
??

About location: as shooting location might be sensible information, I am planning to add a member tool "remove location data from my uploaded images". With above EXIF view feature, member should also be able to deny location parsing (to a map location for example). Same applies to copyright notice, which may reveal member's real name (some may not wish that), or does it matter?

I agree with your approach to the location question.
About Copyright, I only question about why they would have loaded their real name for the copyright if they didn't wish their real name to be used. However, the approach you plan to take covers the situation well.




  
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Jul 13, 2018 19:41 |  #24

Capn Jack wrote in post #18662154 (external link)
I agree with your approach to the location question.
About Copyright, I only question about why they would have loaded their real name for the copyright if they didn't wish their real name to be used. However, the approach you plan to take covers the situation well.

For sure there will be members who would not want their location and real name revealed. You could say that it is their own responsibility to ensure uploaded files don't contain sensitive info. But many won't think about what is in the EXIF. So it would be better to not display some info in the EXIF.


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Jul 13, 2018 20:21 |  #25

About location: as shooting location might be sensible information, I am planning to add a member tool "remove location data from my uploaded images

Haven't followed all this thread so forgive, even delete please if duplicating stuff here.
One of the issues here (Tasmania) is the way people, and their extremes, get to a place for a 'must have photo'.
In the process, with continued use, selfies etc, driving more and more to this 'must have' location, they literally kill the place.

End result is a plethora of selfies, masses of waste of every imaginable type, and defoliation etc etc.

It's hard, but some places are beautiful to see images of, and let's leave it at that.

I'm not suggesting one way or the other, but there's a conundrum Down Under as our beautiful locations get trashed by people taking extremes to the extreme just for their own personal gratification rather than that wow factor of the vista before them.



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Jul 13, 2018 21:25 |  #26

Pekka wrote in post #18662021 (external link)
About location: as shooting location might be sensible [Sensitive?] information, I am planning to add a member tool "remove location data from my uploaded images". With above EXIF view feature, member should also be able to deny location parsing (to a map location for example). Same applies to copyright notice, which may reveal member's real name (some may not wish that), or does it matter?

It does matter. I don't think my camera has GPS, but I want to keep location private as well as my name. Thank you for considering these issues before rolling out the tool.


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Jul 14, 2018 01:36 |  #27

Pekka wrote in post #18662021 (external link)
I am planning to add a member tool "remove location data from my uploaded images".

This is great! I would suggest to extend this to "remove all non-technical / personal data from my uploaded image" - this gives a choice if you want to keep the copyright, etc. And I would be very much in favour to see more information about the pictures on this site. I learn a lot from how others take their pictures.


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Jul 14, 2018 02:24 |  #28

Pekka wrote in post #18662021 (external link)
I'll see what I can do.

Getting EXIF is quite easy (Exiftool can be used), parsing it to usable format is also not a big task, but to read exif the image must be downloaded to server which in turn needs caching or other storage. I think the sensible way to add this would be like the histogram works at the moment (hover/tap image -> click a command button -> image is retrieved -> the data is parsed and shown -> data is cached for that image).

I do not see the value for showing all items, so please discuss for a list of items that would be useful:

flash mode
metering mode
exposure program
white balance mode
location
date taken
copyright
title
tags
subject
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About location: as shooting location might be sensible information, I am planning to add a member tool "remove location data from my uploaded images". With above EXIF view feature, member should also be able to deny location parsing (to a map location for example). Same applies to copyright notice, which may reveal member's real name (some may not wish that), or does it matter?

Looks like a good list, focal points used and where available VR/IS but both are make specific and probably not easy to work with. Mirror lockup would be of interest however.

On location; tbh I tend to forget to turn on GPS even when I want it, even so most I strip it out for legacy pp reasons. I suspect people can just remove it themselves if need be but see below,

On copyright, why add one if you don't want it seen???

Considering the trends in privacy regulatory frameworks it might be worth including the following configurations in the FYEO on the basis it is easy to do from the start rather that retrofit later.

Hide my Exif Location
Hide my Exif Copyright.

Should the copyright hide also hide the contact email and web page that are needed to avoid the orphan work ruling?


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Jul 14, 2018 02:28 |  #29

So just to respond to the above, my personal instinct would be not to strip out sensitive info but to provide user settings to inhibit it's display. This is then in line with regulatory trends and other social media platforms, it also gives more user flexibility.


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Jul 14, 2018 10:24 |  #30

Lester Wareham wrote in post #18662359 (external link)
Should the copyright hide also hide the contact email and web page that are needed to avoid the orphan work ruling?

What's this about?


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