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Opinions please...24-70 vii or 35mm vii

 
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Jul 09, 2018 20:34 |  #1

For weddings AND portraits.

I use my 50L quite a bit now and never touch my 24-70, honestly, don't like the looks it gives. Need opinions on getting the 35mm vii in its place for portraits and weddings? Thank you.

P.s. Yes, I realize it will change the shooting style, when the zoom will allow me to sit in one place, the primes will have me switching out lens based on what I want to get.




  
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Jul 09, 2018 21:39 |  #2

I have both lenses and love them for what they are. However a 35mm lens is too short in my opinion for portrait work.


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Jul 09, 2018 21:41 as a reply to  @ jcolman's post |  #3

Would you elaborate on "too short"? You lost me there.




  
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Jul 11, 2018 07:34 |  #4

jhaywald wrote in post #18659591 (external link)
Would you elaborate on "too short"? You lost me there.

The focal length is too short in my opinion for single portraits. If you get too close to the subject, you distort them. 85mm is a good portrait lens.

EDIT: I'm talking about head and shoulder type portraits, not full length shots.


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Jul 11, 2018 19:51 |  #5

jcolman wrote in post #18660432 (external link)
The focal length is too short in my opinion for single portraits. If you get too close to the subject, you distort them. 85mm is a good portrait lens.

I agree. Some people like 50mm I think that’s a bit short as well for portraits. 85 up seems the most flattering.

The 35 is good for group shots and reception stuff.

I am surprised the op does not like the 24-70 for general work. You can cover a lot,of ground with that




  
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Jul 11, 2018 20:57 |  #6

George Zip wrote in post #18660909 (external link)
I am surprised the op does not like the 24-70 for general work. You can cover a lot,of ground with that


So, I guess with my shooting style, whenever I'm that far away the 70-200 works just fine for me. I've never had to use the 24-70.




  
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Jul 11, 2018 22:34 |  #7

It is harder to shoot portraits with 35mm. There was some poster who used to post awesome shots from 35L. Personally for me even 50mm is too short. Regarding 24-70mm, I never liked mine too boring but for events (weddings) I would have one for sure.


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Jul 11, 2018 22:40 |  #8

jhaywald wrote in post #18660947 (external link)
So, I guess with my shooting style, whenever I'm that far away the 70-200 works just fine for me. I've never had to use the 24-70.

I use the 70-200 wherever I can. I love the look of that lens and the compression. It is my favourite lens.

All I meant was (and I should have elaborated ) for general stuff and the bulk of the day, when things are moving quickly I find the 24-70 and the 70-200 on two bodies is great.

For group shots I may use the 50mm or 35mm but cause I am shooting at 4 to 5.6 the 24-7o is fine. I have the mark II in Canon land and it is really sharp. Probably a bit too sharp for my taste when shooting people.

For portraits I use the 85 and tend to sit at around F2.0 or so as I love that look. I personally find 50mm a bit generic and 35 a bit wide as mentioned. Having said that I have seem some photographers successfully use a 35 all day. For details I use a macro.

The 35 is awesome for reception stuff. I tend to use that or the 16-35 or both.

Attached is a bridal portrait done with the 85 at f 2.0 from memory. I find I can on;y get that sort of look with the 85.

That’s just what I think.


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Jul 13, 2018 02:10 |  #9

jhaywald wrote in post #18659536 (external link)
For weddings AND portraits.

I use my 50L quite a bit now and never touch my 24-70, honestly, don't like the looks it gives. Need opinions on getting the 35mm vii in its place for portraits and weddings? Thank you.

P.s. Yes, I realize it will change the shooting style, when the zoom will allow me to sit in one place, the primes will have me switching out lens based on what I want to get.

Actually I think you should try something.

Start foot zooming. Use your current 24-70 and instead of commonly zooming in.....start using your feet. This way you'll get different perspective. People that zoom and sit stationary will have the same shots "uncle bob" will get. Take charge of the floor and foot zoom and utilize the zoom lens to the max.

The 35L mk2 is a killer lens. If you want to get rock solid AF but less micro contrast just buy a mint 35Lmk1. The 35Lmk1 is more consistent in AF than your 50L and equally sharp if not the 35Lmk1 is sharper.

70-200 mk2 is a fantastic lens. You just have to see if it fits your style.

If your going to run and gun you should at least consider an 85mm on another body for portrait shots.


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Jul 29, 2018 04:16 |  #10

I'd say definitely the 24-70 for both. I have a 35 but I rarely use it. Very occasionally it's useful to be able to shoot in dark wedding venues at 1.4 but recent bodies are amazing at high ISO so the 24-70 is a better bet. I know there's something to be said for the "look" of a wide open fast lens but weddings move fast and for me the flexibility of the 24-70 trumps using primes.


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Jul 29, 2018 04:32 |  #11

I sold my 24-70 and replaced it with 35/1.4 and never looked back.

You don't have to be that close for good shot, 35mm gives you enough room to get some context of surroundings.


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Aug 01, 2018 08:52 |  #12

The 35mm is more of a documentary/story-telling lens. It's my preferred focal length for weddings and lifestyle portraits. You can also use it for individual portraits if you want to incorporate more of the scene within the frame. I'm not as big a fan of it for tight head and shoulders portraits, but it definitely has its place. For me, the 35mm's place is on my camera - 80% of the time.

With that being said, it's still relatively close to the 50mm. Have you considered pairing your 50mm with a 24/28mm instead? I know that is a popular combo also.


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Aug 01, 2018 23:09 |  #13

I think so this won't work for wedding photographs may be you can use this for some of your street click shots and in that too 35mm vii works well when you compare it to 24-70vii.


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Aug 14, 2018 20:07 |  #14

In my opinion and I'm sure everyone's will differ, I think the 24-70 is much more versatile. You have control over different focal lengths and more control over perspective and distortion.

You can get closer with the 24-70mm which will impart a more personal and intimate photo without too much distortion. I find that if you come in close with the 35mm, distortion can make the subjects seem a little heavier than they are.


  
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Aug 28, 2018 18:22 |  #15

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I use the 70-200 wherever I can. I love the look of that lens and the compression. It is my favourite lens.

All I meant was (and I should have elaborated ) for general stuff and the bulk of the day, when things are moving quickly I find the 24-70 and the 70-200 on two bodies is great.

For group shots I may use the 50mm or 35mm but cause I am shooting at 4 to 5.6 the 24-7o is fine. I have the mark II in Canon land and it is really sharp. Probably a bit too sharp for my taste when shooting people.

For portraits I use the 85 and tend to sit at around F2.0 or so as I love that look. I personally find 50mm a bit generic and 35 a bit wide as mentioned. Having said that I have seem some photographers successfully use a 35 all day. For details I use a macro.

The 35 is awesome for reception stuff. I tend to use that or the 16-35 or both.

Attached is a bridal portrait done with the 85 at f 2.0 from memory. I find I can on;y get that sort of look with the 85.

That’s just what I think.

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I 100% agree with you. The bulk of the day I shoot with my 24-70 on one body and my 70-200 on another. I'll set up a third body with the 90 macro with a ring light for detail work. I almost never use my 85 at weddings, though I'm trying to get back to it (I was without it for a while).


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