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Aug 13, 2018 01:04 |  #16

Dj Silver wrote in post #18681562 (external link)
I am a semi-pro football (soccer) photographer working for an agency.


The agency requires I send images to them like this... SRGB, Jpeg, 300 pixels per inch, Long side 3000 pixels, Limit file size to 1,500k.

In Lightroom, you can set up a preset to export as above.

Can this be achieved in Photoshop is my question?

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Yes, you can achieve the goal in Photoshop too. You just do something on Image Size by (Alt+Ctrl+I) Make here the resolution 300 pixels per inch, then save for the web.

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Aug 13, 2018 04:37 |  #17

In the save for web dialogue if you click the little arrow by the quality setting you can chose to set it to file must not exceed, just like in Lr. I used to use it when doing images for POTN back in the dark ages before I found Lr. That was in CS3, although Adobe has depreciated SfW for several releases now. So it might not be such a great idea to build a new workflow based on it right now. Although since so many pro's do have workflows built around it there is a good chance it might stay around for a long time. I liked SfW when I used it since it does pretty much everything you need, including all the resizing, except output sharpening. Running the image though a stand alone sharpener afterwards loses you the file size tayloring though when you resave the JPEG.

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Aug 13, 2018 06:45 |  #18

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If you still want to use Lightroom for organization or anything else, then you can always pop over to PS (or another editor) from LR using the “Edit In” command. Once you’re done in photoshop, just save the file and the changes will be synced back to LR where you can export, etc as you have been doing. Might be too cumbersome for tons of photos, but if it’s just a few here and there, then it could work fine.

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Aug 13, 2018 06:50 |  #19

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Yes I know. I'm just as curious about batching 3rd party NR. I always thought it was just onesies. I guess you could create a script that opened images up one at a time but you would still have to click on each one to complete the process. Or are you OK with applying NR one at a time and looking for a way to batch for export at the end?

As for batch processing that was what I used to do for sharpening and resizing when I shot events. It has been a lot of years and I forgot how to do it. I used DPP as my main editor, exported As TIFFS and then to PS, did some final editing and then used a script I think to batch which was a nightmare. I got LR which made life much easier. My wife said the cursing went away after getting LR.

Just a quick search.

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I've got a couple of presets I have set up but when the light changes or you have a few shots in bright sunshine and some in the same batch in the shade of a large stand, they don't always save time. :)


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Aug 13, 2018 07:03 |  #20

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Yes, you can achieve the goal in Photoshop too. You just do something on Image Size by (Alt+Ctrl+I) Make here the resolution 300 pixels per inch, then save for the web.

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Yeah thanks, I've seen that but what I can't seem to find in PS is where I can limit the file size to 1500k


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Aug 13, 2018 13:13 |  #21

Dj Silver wrote in post #18683252 (external link)
Yeah thanks, I've seen that but what I can't seem to find in PS is where I can limit the file size to 1500k


Please see my previous post above. In the Save for Web dialogue there is an arrow/triangle besides the quality % display. If you click that you have a couple of options, including maximum file size. Been in SfW since at least CS2. I used it regularly to get the POTN 150Kb limit before I moved to using Lr in 2011.

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Aug 13, 2018 13:30 |  #22

I checked it out earlier but unless I'm wrong there is no actual K value. I guess you would need to hunt down the corresponding values from Maximum to Low?


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Aug 13, 2018 13:32 |  #23

BigAl007 wrote in post #18683436 (external link)
Please see my previous post above. In the Save for Web dialogue there is an arrow/triangle besides the quality % display. If you click that you have a couple of options, including maximum file size. Been in SfW since at least CS2. I used it regularly to get the POTN 150Kb limit before I moved to using Lr in 2011.

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In PS6 it's in the upper right hand corner drop down menu called 'Optimize to File Size'


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Aug 13, 2018 13:48 |  #24

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Aug 13, 2018 13:54 |  #25

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Aug 13, 2018 14:00 |  #26

-Douglas- wrote in post #18683480 (external link)
certainly welcome!

I know I did it long ago before getting LR for online contests.


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Aug 14, 2018 17:54 |  #27

The problem with Photoshop's file size optimizer is that it is not something that you can include as a Save For Web in an action - that is, the file size optimizer that figures out the compression does not get run for every image in a batch, so when you run the Save For Web when recording the action, the compression that gets computed for the example image is statically used for all of the images in the batch.

Or, if you make the action and run it on one image at a time, same thing.

It may be easier to automate the process if you do some quick experiments in the Save For Web preview window to see what level of compression gives you the file size and quality you want and then just statically use that value for your batch conversion.

Also, if you have a mix of portrait and landscape orientation, don't forget to use the "Automate > Fit Image" command - this is similar to resizing to the long edge in Lightroom.

You action will look something like this:

Automate > Fit Image (3000, 3000, do not enlarge)
Image Size ... Resolution = 300, do not resample
Edit > Covert to Profile ... sRGB
Save to output folder via however you want


HOWEVER...

The most efficient and easiest way to do this is to perform your Photoshop edits on your files at full resolution and save them as "masters" - then do all the downsizing, ppi, and saving to a specific file size with imagemagick, using the "mogrify" command:


magick mogrify -path /Path/to/Output/Direct​ory -format jpg -resize "3000x3000" -density 300 -define jpeg:extent=1500kb *.jpg

You will run this command while in the directory with all of your master images (actually it is better to duplicate your masters and run on a duplicate in case something goes wrong). So, make the directory of all of the images you want to operate on (the duplicates of your masters) the working directory and run the command - it will save JPEGs to the specified Output Directory (in the -path argument) with a long edge of 3000 pixels, a ppi of 300 and a file size of 1.5MB or less. This particular example assumes your input files are JPEGs with the file extension ".jpg" (the last part of the command, *.jpg, means "do this on all of the files (the * wildcard) with the extension .jpg in the current directory.")

Piece of cake.

Imagemagick is scary because it is a command line tool, but it is cross-platform, free, and extremely well-documented so the info you need is out there.

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Aug 15, 2018 14:51 as a reply to  @ kirkt's post |  #28

And Photo Mechanic does all of this too.

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Aug 16, 2018 11:42 |  #29

It appears I would have to do quite a bit more than what I currently do to use PS instaed of LR. Which, totally defeats the object.

I really appreciate everybody's input but I have to say I can't see a better/quicker way.

Thank you all.

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