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Aug 21, 2018 19:32 |  #1

I shoot a lot of action or panning shots, typically at 1/10, 1/13, or 1/15 shutter speeds. I can hear the huge difference in high speed bursts with 1/10 versus say 1/100 shutter speeds. What is the formula to break down the FPS with a certain shutter speed?

So, back to the original question: with a camera such as the 7DII, what is the minimum shutter needed to obtain the 10 frames per second?

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Aug 21, 2018 19:41 |  #2

at most, the shutter operating at 10 fps cannot even equal 1/100 of a second duration! It needs time between frames for the mirror to flow and the shutter to cock (assuming conventional dSLR). Even a mirrorless camera, which has no reflex mirror motion and may not even have shutter blades per se, cannot equal 1/100 if it has readout time of the sensor. If a mirrorless design uses a progressive readout process (I think Fuji does this) it can better approach duration of 1/100 than the read-twice-per-frame technique

((shutter duration * fps rate) + (overheadtime * fps rate)) = 1 second


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A corollary. How do 1,000,000,000 frames per second cameras work?




  
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Aug 21, 2018 19:44 |  #4

There’s more to it than shutter speed.

Memory card transfer rate.....and what kind of file(s) you’re writing (size of jpeg, raw, both, etc).


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Aug 21, 2018 19:46 |  #5

Bassat wrote in post #18689775 (external link)
A corollary. How do 1,000,000,000 frames per second cameras work?

A film movie camera has a special kind of shutter. Best read about via Wikipedia (or equivalent) and its illustrations. How they get to Gigaframes-per-second needs someone else.


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Aug 21, 2018 19:54 |  #6

Wilt wrote in post #18689778 (external link)
A film movie camera has a special kind of shutter. Best read about via Wikipedia (or equivalent) and its illustrations. How they get to Gigaframes-per-second needs someone else.

That's child's play now....4.4 trillion is the current max! For your average high speed camera, it tends to lower resolution for dealing with buffer sizes.

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The first few paragraphs give a rudimentary layman's explanation of how a camera can shoot 5,000,000,000,000 (5 trillion) frames per second. Interesting. I'm the next Sony dSLR will top it.




  
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davesrose wrote in post #18689790 (external link)
That's child's play now....4.4 trillion is the current max! For your average high speed camera, it tends to lower resolution for dealing with buffer sizes.

See the World’s Fastest Cameras in Action: 4.4 Trillion Shots Each Second (external link)

Old news. Over 5T, now.




  
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Bassat wrote in post #18689791 (external link)
The first few paragraphs give a rudimentary layman's explanation of how a camera can shoot 5,000,000,000,000 (5 trillion) frames per second. Interesting. I'm the next Sony dSLR will top it.


...but wait, isn't Sony basically abandoning the dSLR in favor of 'mirrorless', and is grudgingly coming out with a few new lenses for its previous dSLR line of cameras?


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Wilt wrote in post #18689798 (external link)
...but wait, isn't Sony basically abandoning the dSLR in favor of 'mirrorless', and is grudgingly coming out with a few new lenses for its previous dSLR line of cameras?

DFK, DFC. Canon shooter here.




  
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Aug 21, 2018 20:20 |  #11

Well that escalated quickly!


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Aug 21, 2018 20:36 |  #12

get the timer out on your phone, and take pictures of it...set the shutter speed at different speeds, and fire off shots until you can figure out which one gives you ~10 in one second


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Aug 22, 2018 07:29 |  #13

It's my understanding that Jethro is on the right track. I do t know the exact formula so to speak but believe even ISO settings can affect FPS. I'm interested in what other have to say.




  
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Aug 22, 2018 07:39 |  #14

The memory card and type of file are not relevant until the camera's buffer is filled. Until that point the mechanical action is the bottleneck.

Dre's suggestion seems like a winning idea. I don't even need high speed continuous and I'm tempted to try it out.


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