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Apr 22, 2020 17:32 |  #1456

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They were "introduced" unintentionally (but entirely forseeable) in the late 70's when they were fore sale at a tenner at large warehouses, brought in from India and central Afrika. Of course they made far too much noise, and what must have seemed a nice present to one of your children, was soon something to get rid off. Being the seventies (you know, hippies and freedom for all and return to nature) quite a few people simply let them out into "the wild". For years, only a few pairs survived, but from halfway into the 90's the newborns made themselves at home and slowly colonies started to form.

They are viewed as a pest now, with the colonies growing steadily in the cities, where they have found a way to survive and breed. But I see it a little different, they did not ask to be brought over here after all, and not being a migratory bird, they had no way to get back to Afrika, let alone India. So I sort of admire their successful effort to make a life for themselves in our cities and parks. There must be around 10.000 now in Holland, 28.000 in Belgium! I have seen their slow but steady ascent, culminating in having one visit a tree nearby recently. They sleep in large groups, and often you can witness their activity of assembling for the night. Their colors obviously are ill matched with our environment and with other birds. They will never be a real pest though, because their breeding success remains limited, but for sure they are here to stay.

B.t.w. these images were about the first from my new combo: Z7+500PF+1.4TC, but today I tried the Z7+500PF (bare) out, and that combo really impresses me. There are a lot of good things to say about it. I really like the clarity of IQ and consistency of auto focus. Nikon must have come some ways from firmware 1.0 to version 3.0, because if the AF is truly hopeless, I am just not seeing it. The Z7 nails it with the 500PF, no hunting and hardly any variation, mostly all spot-on. The only downside really, is that the lens does not always travel straight to the plane of focus, but sometimes travels beyond, turns back one or two times, and then hits focus. That happens very quickly, but it is annoying, and if Nikon can get that out, than it really is starting to impress. Just travel to the plane of focus, land there and fire the shutter, that is how it should be consistently. I would love to see Matthew try one out, just to hear his impressions. I know he did not like the EOS-R, and felt he could not pin point small birds in amongst the braches, but the Z7 sure does in my experience.
Also very nice is the FF coverage with ability to move your focus point around left to right, up and down, and it works with the same spot-on AF right into the corners. The joystick is great, it is so easy to place the AF point anywhere you like.
I also like the EVF a lot. I always hated the Sony A7RII's EVF, which is like a little crappy tv screen (I still use that body with the Loxias!). The EOS-R's EVF was also nice, but the Z7's EVF somehow is so clear and natural, that I can see the subjects better than throught the D500's OVF. What also had me sceptical, was the experience with the A7RII's (efcs) shutter, which is sluggish and just not a high framerate shutter. The Z7's shutter is great, very soft, no slap of any kind, but not at all sluggish, just quick and lean. I tried out Hi+, and was amazed being used to the Hi framerate mode of the Sony A7RII.
I can now finally use the VR "normal" mode, which is hardly useable with the D500, apparently due to the vibration from the shutter/mirror assembly. With the Z7, I can easily go down to 1/200s with VR normal.
The ergonomics and build quality are also so much better and nicer than those of the the Sony A7RII.

I hope Nikon will get a few more firmware updates out before dropping support for the Z7! All in all, I think it is a great body.

Very interesting background on the Parakeets. I've heard a similar story regarding the origin of the Monk Parakeets I mentioned. They are similar in many ways to what you described.

I'm with you on the "no fault of their own" situation.

When I was 1st switching from Canon to Nikon (I had already bought a D500 & 200-500 for my wife & played enough with it to understand the D500 AF capabilities), I had sold all my Canon gear and was at the store making my initial transition purchase I had a D850 on my list. They were out of D850's at the time, but my buddy at the store slid the 1st Z7 "in north Texas" in from of me and assurred me that it was everything the D850 was "and then some". Not knowing anything about the Z bodies and eager to get new gear in my hands, I accepted the Z7. Along with it was a D500 for me, a bunch of lenses, and various accessories.

As I began acclimating to my new gear, when I began testing the Z7 I was shocked to discover that not "everything the D850 was", let alone the "and then some" part. Because I had a particular set of expectations, I returned the Z7 for a D850.

Months later, the Z6 came out & I picked one up with a different set of expectations. I have enjoyed the Z6 since day one, even with v1 firmware. It has gotten progressively better with each release and I expect that to continue. Had I gotten the Z7 w/o having had my expectations set erroneously high, I'm sure I'd love it too.

I'm not sure why, but the Z50 is quicker to focus than the Z6 even with the latest FW. Perhaps its due to the sensor size or logic. One of my regular shooting buddies has both the Z6 & recently added Z50 and he echoed the same experience with the Z50 AF.

As I've said many times, it sure is nice to drop a TC (1.4x, 1.7x, 2x) on with virtually any lens and the Z body just performs - no AF Adjust / AFMA required. :)


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Apr 24, 2020 19:11 |  #1457

Blue-gray Gnatcatchers are everywhere here, and are very inquisitive. These little cuties will have to suffice until the warbler wave finally hits; until then, here's a Female Blue-gray Gnatcatcher doing her best Nuthatch impression:

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Apr 25, 2020 10:18 |  #1458

Common Yellow-throats have also returned!

Still very little warbler activity though, and I'm starting to get the feeling that they're skipping our area this year. Spring migration has always been a little lackluster compared to Fall in my area, so I'm not expecting a huge turnout. It's just nice to see some awesome birds!

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Apr 25, 2020 10:23 |  #1459

Chris1966 wrote in post #19051178 (external link)
They were "introduced" unintentionally (but entirely forseeable) in the late 70's when they were fore sale at a tenner at large warehouses, brought in from India and central Afrika. Of course they made far too much noise, and what must have seemed a nice present to one of your children, was soon something to get rid off. Being the seventies (you know, hippies and freedom for all and return to nature) quite a few people simply let them out into "the wild". For years, only a few pairs survived, but from halfway into the 90's the newborns made themselves at home and slowly colonies started to form.

They are viewed as a pest now, with the colonies growing steadily in the cities, where they have found a way to survive and breed. But I see it a little different, they did not ask to be brought over here after all, and not being a migratory bird, they had no way to get back to Afrika, let alone India. So I sort of admire their successful effort to make a life for themselves in our cities and parks. There must be around 10.000 now in Holland, 28.000 in Belgium! I have seen their slow but steady ascent, culminating in having one visit a tree nearby recently. They sleep in large groups, and often you can witness their activity of assembling for the night. Their colors obviously are ill matched with our environment and with other birds. They will never be a real pest though, because their breeding success remains limited, but for sure they are here to stay.

B.t.w. these images were about the first from my new combo: Z7+500PF+1.4TC, but today I tried the Z7+500PF (bare) out, and that combo really impresses me. There are a lot of good things to say about it. I really like the clarity of IQ and consistency of auto focus. Nikon must have come some ways from firmware 1.0 to version 3.0, because if the AF is truly hopeless, I am just not seeing it. The Z7 nails it with the 500PF, no hunting and hardly any variation, mostly all spot-on. The only downside really, is that the lens does not always travel straight to the plane of focus, but sometimes travels beyond, turns back one or two times, and then hits focus. That happens very quickly, but it is annoying, and if Nikon can get that out, than it really is starting to impress. Just travel to the plane of focus, land there and fire the shutter, that is how it should be consistently. I would love to see Matthew try one out, just to hear his impressions. I know he did not like the EOS-R, and felt he could not pin point small birds in amongst the braches, but the Z7 sure does in my experience.
Also very nice is the FF coverage with ability to move your focus point around left to right, up and down, and it works with the same spot-on AF right into the corners. The joystick is great, it is so easy to place the AF point anywhere you like.
I also like the EVF a lot. I always hated the Sony A7RII's EVF, which is like a little crappy tv screen (I still use that body with the Loxias!). The EOS-R's EVF was also nice, but the Z7's EVF somehow is so clear and natural, that I can see the subjects better than throught the D500's OVF. What also had me sceptical, was the experience with the A7RII's (efcs) shutter, which is sluggish and just not a high framerate shutter. The Z7's shutter is great, very soft, no slap of any kind, but not at all sluggish, just quick and lean. I tried out Hi+, and was amazed being used to the Hi framerate mode of the Sony A7RII.
I can now finally use the VR "normal" mode, which is hardly useable with the D500, apparently due to the vibration from the shutter/mirror assembly. With the Z7, I can easily go down to 1/200s with VR normal.
The ergonomics and build quality are also so much better and nicer than those of the the Sony A7RII.

I hope Nikon will get a few more firmware updates out before dropping support for the Z7! All in all, I think it is a great body.
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Your findings give me some hope regarding Nikon's mirrorless offerings, and I'm really tempted to give the Z50 a try. As for the Z7, it'd be a tough choice between that and the D850 if I were going to add a FF camera to my birding bag, but like you say, I've been sorely put off by the EOS R's horrid birding performance last year, so I'd most certainly rent a Z50/Z7 before committing.

I've found that the D500's VR Normal is unusable because it fights against you when you're trying to quickly change targets, whereas the Sport mode is more smooth.




  
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Apr 25, 2020 16:16 |  #1460

Another one from earlier, and I think I like this one a little better because of the softer light and lack of twigs. If I could change anything, I wish the shot would have more DOF so that more of the perch would be sharp.

For as powerful as Photoshop is, I just cannot seem to perform clean removals of twigs against a graduated background without it turning into a splotchy, noticeable mess. If anyone has any pointers on this sort of removal, I'd be very appreciative.

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Apr 26, 2020 18:46 |  #1461

Finished off the weekend with a rainy-day trip out to my favorite birding spot, and was happy to see the Prothonotary Warblers have returned from their winter vacation.

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Apr 26, 2020 20:27 |  #1462

The rainy overcast didn't help with light, but this Prothonotary was regularly near MFD, so I started stopping down in order to keep enough of the bird in focus. I need to get back out there on a day with some sunlight.

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Apr 27, 2020 11:08 |  #1463

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The rainy overcast didn't help with light, but this Prothonotary was regularly near MFD, so I started stopping down in order to keep enough of the bird in focus. I need to get back out there on a day with some sunlight.

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O M G, Brutha!

You're kill'n it. So many beauties as of late. Looks like things are really picking up in your area.

I heard there was a Warbler Fallout in south TX late last week, so things should be on the upswing here too. I sure wish I was able to head down to the coast & enjoy them, but there's always next year (hopefully).

Wifey & I did strap on our big ballz over the weekend and visited a really nice Wildlife Refuge just south of the TX / OK border Saturday. Should have some shots processed soon. It sure was mentally therapeutic to get out with nature.


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Apr 27, 2020 14:27 |  #1464

Typically, when wifey & shoot from the car, she will sit in the back seat (behind me) so I can position the car for best perspective. When we visit the Wildlife Refuge we went to on Saturday, we don't do that because there can be (and is) action on both sides of the road. Everything we did Saturday, was from the car. She got 1st action, and had not missed a beat (this was the first time we've been out shooting since our trip to Vegas in February).

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Apr 27, 2020 14:35 |  #1466

Still from the Mrs.

How she spotted this RHWP, I have no idea. We were just coming out from a heavily canopied area and gave me the sign to "stop now" and she began clicking away. I never saw it. We did come across several more though.

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Apr 27, 2020 14:42 |  #1467

Last ones for now. Both are heavy crops. Gotta work some more.

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Apr 27, 2020 21:20 |  #1468

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O M G, Brutha!

You're kill'n it. So many beauties as of late. Looks like things are really picking up in your area.

I heard there was a Warbler Fallout in south TX late last week, so things should be on the upswing here too. I sure wish I was able to head down to the coast & enjoy them, but there's always next year (hopefully).

Wifey & I did strap on our big ballz over the weekend and visited a really nice Wildlife Refuge just south of the TX / OK border Saturday. Should have some shots processed soon. It sure was mentally therapeutic to get out with nature.

Oh man, you have no idea... nothing brightens my day more than not seeing Dark-eyed Juncos anymore (they've all gone north... hope the door didn't hit them on the way out). The Spring has brought not only a vibrant resurgence of the bird life, but also my spirits. I feel like I'm hitting on all cylinders again, and I really appreciate everyone (all 5 of you in the 500 PF thread :lol: ) putting up with my belly aching over this past winter.

Case in point: Great Crested Flycatchers have bedeviled me over the years, they just refuse to come down from the tops of the tallest trees, until today. I'm thinking that this was a juvenile, as he was so tame, a far cry from the 5 winter months where absolutely nothing would land within a country mile of me.

Just look at that great crest!

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Apr 27, 2020 21:31 |  #1469

Phil, glad to see you all getting out of the house and trying to get back to normal a bit. I'm thinking you felt a ton better after the outing!

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Still from the Mrs.

How she spotted this RHWP, I have no idea. We were just coming out from a heavily canopied area and gave me the sign to "stop now" and she began clicking away. I never saw it. We did come across several more though.

Red-headed Woodpecker... majestic find. Congrats to the missus!

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Painted Buntings.... :love::love::love::love: Right up there at the top of my 'birds to see before I die' list.




  
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Apr 28, 2020 05:23 |  #1470

MatthewK wrote in post #19053483 (external link)
The rainy overcast didn't help with light, but this Prothonotary was regularly near MFD, so I started stopping down in order to keep enough of the bird in focus. I need to get back out there on a day with some sunlight.

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Brilliant work on the warblers! Really never seen better.


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