Canon 7D MK iii

The 7D2 is just a better build and more capable body for action. If you don't need that, the 80D is just fine.

Instead I think a better option is to just shoot with what you have, and learn more about the capabilities and more post processing techniques/tools (the digital darkroom skillset is very important). Keep an eye out for the mirrorless offerings past this latest EOS-R. Chances are that in the next year or two, you might want to move to a lighter more versatile EOS-R-like APS-C body.

I am not sure there will be a 7D3 even, with diminishing camera revenues, I just don't see Canon working on mirrorless, RF lenses, and still maintaining EF-M cameras and lenses, and then also 7D/1D/5D development. It would be a very aggressive use of R&D funds in a diminishing market. It used to be that there would be a few people hanging around the camera section at best buy when I would go, but the last few times I have gone, there has been nobody there. Not a great litmus test, but it was noticeable to me. I would always "enjoy" the salespeople talking to customers, telling them all the great tips, tricks, and capabilities of the cameras (however incorrect it all was).

In the meantime (next year or two), if there is something you cannot capture between the 6D2 and 80D, then (not to be mean) it is likely either an issue of glass, or the gray matter behind the viewfinder.

I know, because every time I get a messed up shot from the 7D2 and 5D4, if I am honest with myself, I know I screwed up.

Save up and watch the Canon refurbished lens store for the binoculars, it sounds like that would be more enjoyable at this point.

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Thanks Teamspeed, I agree. I am going back and working some of my old Rebel images and it is amazing how much my skill set has improved, but still has a long way to go. I am not learning to deal with noise and artifacts etc.

I have good glass, learning more skills, and need to stay motivated and not get discouraged when I cannot get a shot or can't find somewhere that I can physically go.

I would like to shoot school sports for practice but worry about someone pulling you aside and saying unless you are a new photog or a parent or relative you cannot be here (there are weirdos out there and I don't want to be lumped into that).

One thing I did years ago to avoid that I joined AI News, that is a pay to play thing that most in the photo community look down on but to the outside world it is see as legit and does provide press passes and assignment letters etc. I have used it for several events around Boston and am going to see if it will work with the New England Revolution, the pro soccer team. But it would certainly work if you were approached at a high school event.

I too am finally learning more of the post-processing skills I need. It is helping me more than grabbing the next camera as it comes out. GAS I still deal with, but my cameras serve me very well now, and hopefully for quite some time.
Focus on that and I think we would all get better! I am also really working on getting the image as “right” as possible when I take it so I have less to do in post. That is also helping a ton!

Teamspeed gave some great advice around shooting what we have, then analyzing what was missed. Was it really the camera/lens that held me back... or did I hold myself back?

I think I will reuse an old computer store acronym...
PEBCAC - used to mean... problem exists between chair and computer
Now it means... problem exists between camera and computer

Tonight my son took me to a BBQ banquet for my retirement, it featured Tuffy Stone a well know BBQ King. I have to say I spent over half my time shooting pictures of the event instead of just sitting and eating. I had a blast.

BUT

It was night outside where Tuffy was cooking and the inside was also dark. I used the 6Dii and shot at 6400-12800 inside and 12800 and some 25000 outside. Even then I was getting 1/20 to 1/40 shutter speeds at f/4 on my 24-105. I did get some sharp shots and will post them on a thread after processing. Now that I am retired I will do that tomorrow during the day! (unless there is activity on the sun in which case I will do some solar shots).

Anyhow it is learn what you have and I am happy that I have two bodies with the same controls.

If I was going to make a habit of shooting in those conditions I would look into the 24-70 f/2.8 I could have used another stop...

Shooting at slow shutter speeds and flash is an old photographers trick. When I was full bore learning about flash preparing for event shooting I did all types of tests. Here I pre-focused on the t-shirt then swept the cam as I took the shot. There was an xmas tree behind. I figured this would make cool effects after getting the key shots but I never tried it out.

Dear Canon,

Please put the RED AF squares of the 1DX mark II into the "7D MK iii"

I tend to agree with Teamspeed, DSLR is being overtaken by Mirrorless. Reminds me of when digital was taking over for film, the first digital cameras didn't hold a candle to the Nikon F3 I had but I got a Rebel and since have never looked back...
Well almost never the other day I got a roll of 120 for my Mamiya C33 to shoot for fun...

WellsRacingPhotos wrote in post #18729634
Hope for their sake its better than the Mark II, I absolutely hate mine and it rarely comes out of the bag anymore.

Hate it compared to what? I hate the fact that f/8 AF is so limited and marginal in anything but lots of light in simple scenes, but most of the cameras with better f/8 AF and less high ISO noise in focal-length-limited situations have much bigger pixels, so f/8 on them can be simulated by f/5.6 on the 7D2, which works fairly well.

I drool over the idea of a 28 or 30MP 7D3 with f/8 AF like the 1DxII. I'd pay a few hundred dollars more than what I paid for the 7D2 for that.

Ah-keong wrote in post #18730591
Dear Canon,

Please put the RED AF squares of the 1DX mark II into the "7D MK iii"

You mean the one that was in the 1D, 1D2 and 1D3, etc.. yeah that one.
Wow I miss that too.

I notice on the 6Dii and my 80D that the focus points "blink" red for a moment and then go out. How long do the ones in the 1D stay on?

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #18731352
I notice on the 6Dii and my 80D that the focus points "blink" red for a moment and then go out. How long do the ones in the 1D stay on?

The 6D2 and 80D use LCD AF point boxes. The original cameras before the LCD overlay in the viewfinder came out had etched screen squares and dedicated led per AF points. It was very easy to see just the one AF point light up, vs an LCD that just has a general red LED that flashes across the entire LCD.

It has been such a complaint since the 7D release in 2009, that Canon finally caved and put something close to the old system back into place but with a modern flair.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18731038
You mean the one that was in the 1D, 1D2 and 1D3, etc.. yeah that one.
Wow I miss that too.

I would say since the 7D MK ii inherit the 1DX MK i AF system, I hope the '7D MK iii' inherit the 1DX MK ii AF system

The latest on 7D MK III

https://fstoppers.com …rriving-early-2019-319048

Really hope this to be true. Whenever I purchase a new camera body, I always wait until at least a year or more after it's on the market like I've with 5D IV most recently, for example, but 7D III is going to be an exception.

So ML or not. That is the question.

It won't be I am quite sure, but it will be one of those rare times I would be happy to be proven wrong.