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Oct 30, 2018 18:08 |  #2206

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18739255 (external link)
I meant is the area selection in MF the same as when in AF. I suspect it would be, but you never know.

It would be important for me to be able to select a very small area to MF on.

Tried this today. The focus guide in MF mode appears to always be a single AF point square, no matter what AF selection mode is set.




  
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Oct 30, 2018 18:30 |  #2207

I found the Manual Focus (Focus Guide (AF2 Tab Menu)) to be very useful, along with the articulating rear LCD, as it allows you to "stand back" when composing and manually focusing. This was especially useful today when shooting this Paper Wasp building its nest in the bushes. Had I been forced to look through the viewfinder, my head would have been fouling the bushes, making the twigs and insect gyrate.

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Oct 30, 2018 21:40 |  #2208

Tony says the new 24-105 is super duper.

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Oct 31, 2018 06:16 |  #2209

Gah, I keep thinking about the MPE65, it is a lens I have yet to try but is on my list. Nice shot with that.

So we have an esteemed member here on POTN that is saying the viewfinder blackout/Prev Frame during a burst isn't anything worse than a DSLR, and others that did video reviews just didn't know what they were doing with settings, etc.

However I don't think that member really did any kind of test where you have Servo AF turned on and have focus as your priority, the test was inside the house just moving the camera around. I would think 3fps with a blackout or previous recorded frame would break your ability to track a BIF, for example. What is the real world experience of this so far? If this is the case, that would completely eliminate this camera for any kind of small area focus lock I would want during any kind of action. Large objects like a car or runner might be different, but often I am either tracking a bird, or a player's head while others move in and out of the frame.

DSLR mirror blackout at 7 or 10fps is better to deal with than a 3fps burst where you cannot see what you are tracking a majority of every second.


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Oct 31, 2018 11:39 |  #2210

Still confused on two issues:

First when shooting a burst with AF apparently 3 PS is what to expect. So does the camera just stop shooting when it reaches the maximum for the AF feature? And still I'm confused with Canon's terminology of AF Continuous vs AI Servo. WTF?

Secondly when attached an EF-S lens via the adapter does the camera automatically apply the 1.6 crop factor? And does that affect the images regarding vignetting etc? ... I'm talking about the EF-S 15-85 or the EF-S 18-135.

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One more thing...

Can I'm guessing the touch AF feature can be turned off altogether to prevent the large nose problem. Yes?




  
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Oct 31, 2018 11:43 |  #2211

Why do I keep reading 5FPS and then 3FPS? which is it?


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Oct 31, 2018 11:48 |  #2212

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18740860 (external link)
Why do I keep reading 5FPS and then 3FPS? which is it?

3FPS is the official spec but reviewers (and users here) are saying that it is 5FPS capable.


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Oct 31, 2018 11:49 |  #2213

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18740860 (external link)
Why do I keep reading 5FPS and then 3FPS? which is it?

I guess what I understand is when AF is enabled it can be as low as 3...but yeah it's very confusing. So when it's 5 maybe somebody can enlighten us. :cry:




  
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Oct 31, 2018 11:49 |  #2214

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Oct 31, 2018 11:50 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #2215

BTW Jared Polin's hands on review demonstrates it pretty well.


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Oct 31, 2018 11:59 |  #2216

nqjudo wrote in post #18740868 (external link)
BTW Jared Polin's hands on review demonstrates it pretty well.

Yeah he touched on it but I didn't see any analysis as to when the camera only does 3 FPS vs 5 FPS.

And again...what happens after the FPS are exhausted? Does the camera just stop shooting? Dumb question maybe but I don't get it completely.




  
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Oct 31, 2018 12:11 as a reply to  @ i-G12's post |  #2217

I didn’t watch the video forensically but I do recall him demonstrating that 5FPS was no issue for him. Unless my memory is totally shot I think it was during the jousting session at the festival.

If you mean what happens when the buffer fills by FPS exhausted I would think the same thing would happen as with any other camera. You’ll have to wait for sufficient space to clear in the buffer before you can take another shot. His vid touches on this as well. I remember something about 47 shots before the buffer filled and him doubting for a while that he was actually shooting in RAW.


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Oct 31, 2018 13:36 |  #2218

i-G12 wrote in post #18740871 (external link)
Yeah he touched on it but I didn't see any analysis as to when the camera only does 3 FPS vs 5 FPS.

Check the specs, as far as I understand:

  • 8 fps with single shot AF (so, no tracking or refocusing), no flicker reduction, no dual pixel raw, some lenses even need IS off, with a shutter speed of 1/1000 or faster
  • 5 fps with Servo AF and "shooting speed priority" (Canon's words, not mine, guess: shutter priority + Servo AF?)
  • 3 fps with tracking priority
  • 2.2 fps with dual pixel raw


Update: missed the link https://shop.usa.canon​.com …ull-frame-mirrorless-body (external link)

Check the Specs and there search for Drive. There are more limitations and explanation, I just quoted what I thought was the most relevant information.

I don't have the camera here, so I can't test what happens when you run out of buffer, but my other cameras will just slow down to the rate the card can take for clearing the buffer.



  
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Oct 31, 2018 16:57 |  #2219

^ so it looks like you have to shoot in low speed continuous shooting to get subject tracking.

z[I] Low-speed continuous shooting
When you hold down the shutter button completely, you can shoot
continuously at max. approx. 3.0 shots/sec. while you keep holding it down.
When [AF operation] is set to [Servo AF], subject tracking with a continuous shooting speed of max. approx. 3.0 shots/sec. is given priority.
When set to Dual Pixel RAW, this is max. approx. 2.2 shots/sec.

Except for the most difficult moving subject like BIF this may not be as big a deal as I thought initially.

Edit: when you run out of buffer I guess you run out of buffer and you have to wait. Not a big deal IMO.




  
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Oct 31, 2018 18:10 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #2220

No idea! When I tried the EOS R on some passing cars it barely slowed down at all. True is was not quick in the first place but it wasn't much/noticeably slower on these slow-ish subjects.

Whilst it is no sports/action camera it will/did get some nice images of moving subjects without slowing by much if any.


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