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Sep 06, 2018 19:37 |  #256

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That post I replied to didn't feel like bantering... ;) But in any case, we will let others higher up in the food chain decide. :D

Talley has always had a bit of drama with his gear changes, I remember the early days of different bodies and lenses, then I watched the move to Sony with interest, because I think we shoot some of the same kinds of things.

Awww :love::love::love:

But seriously I'm just a dad who likes camera gear and trying to learn to become a better photographer. Your light years ahead of me and 10x more professional in your talent. I have a ton of respect for you. Without your early 7D high iso posts I never would of been able to of achieved some of the earlier shots of my kids without the knowledge you gave. Thank you!


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Sep 06, 2018 19:41 |  #257

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The other thing is that Canon COULD offer 4k/60 in a firmware upgrade knowing full well the only reason it's not in here is because it wasn't ready. Fuji does stuff like this ALL the time. But alas, Canon won't. They're not going to "give us" crap as history has proven unless we're willing to pay for it. They could address the cropped 4k also, but they won't.

These are the abstracts that have made me threaten to jump ship since the A7III was released.

Damn. Now I'm doing it all over again.

Again, Canon has indeed opened up functionality in the past with firmware updates. The 7D had new life breathed into it, as did f8 AF with the 5D series, and I believe there were 1 or 2 other such updates.


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Sep 06, 2018 19:44 as a reply to  @ Talley's post |  #258

Wow, thank you for that. :oops: (due to no other smiley looking like a blush face)


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Sep 06, 2018 19:59 |  #259

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Just watched Gordon Laing's preview (external link). He did something pretty cool. He walked around with it in selfie mode both in 1080p and 4K. In 1080p he was using the 24-105. When he switched to 4K the crop factor really zoomed onto his face. It was pretty scary..jk...

Then he switched to the EF-S 10-18 in 4K and it was just wide enough. Something that cannot be done with the 5D4. Well you can. But will have to get the more expensive 16-35 for example.

This is good to show the burst in AI Servo rate, and the skewing of an image in silent shutter...

I predict that the 10-18mm will be pretty hard to find, new or on the used market! It will undoubtedly be one of the vloggers' choice of lenses for 4K video.

I predict a run on the Canon refurbished lens site for that lens! I have the Sigma 8-16 which is a stellar lens too and should work well on the EOS-R.


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Sep 06, 2018 20:13 |  #260

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6-9 months Canon will release a pro model mirrorless with dual cards that will exceed the current Sony A9

Watch this happen and all this talk on this post will be for Nada :p


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Sep 06, 2018 20:16 |  #261

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PREDICTION

6-9 months Canon will release a pro model mirrorless with dual cards that will exceed the current Sony A9

Watch this happen and all this talk on this post will be for Nada :p

I hope so. I want the a9 equivielent in a canon body.

Main reason is owning a cheaper 400 2.8


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Sep 06, 2018 20:16 |  #262

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PREDICTION

6-9 months Canon will release a pro model mirrorless with dual cards that will exceed the current Sony A9

Watch this happen and all this talk on this post will be for Nada :p

It better be closer to the 6 month mark, or I will definitely have an A9 in my hands by then. That will be tax season. In fact, with cash in the LLC account, I might actually consider buying one this year to offset revenue with a business expense, since we have put all 3 home business entities under that LLC, one of which is my photographic endeavors. :)


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Sep 06, 2018 20:24 |  #263

At 3000-3100 the a9 is a really good value.

But I’m staying away as long as I can.


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Sep 06, 2018 20:26 as a reply to  @ Talley's post |  #264

Why, it would complete the triplet!


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Sep 06, 2018 20:27 |  #265

Just watched Kai's hands on preview of the EOS R on YouTube. He has some good fun with the fits the internet would have about the single card slot. Some good real world stuff on the video. Overall he seems to like it. The one thing that I have seen mentioned once or twice that really is quite obvious but genius - cover the sensor when the camera is off. I'm terrified of changing lenses on my A7's. I generally hold the camera facing down, set the new lens down and remove the cap, then release the lens on the camera and quickly swap them with the camera facing down. I didn't enjoy cleaning the sensor (though I didn't have any trouble.)


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Sep 06, 2018 20:33 |  #266

umphotography wrote in post #18702082 (external link)
PREDICTION

6-9 months Canon will release a pro model mirrorless ..... that will exceed the current Sony.


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I hope so. I want the a9 equivielent in a canon body.

This is wishful thinking.

However, I very much doubt that the next Canon FF mirrorless model will really give us everything that the Sonys give us.

I guarantee that Canon will leave something out. They won't give us everything that we really want/ned because they will be too worried about protecting their pro video camera line, or their flagship DSLR. That's what they always seem to do - hold something back, so that we never get everything we want in one camera body.

Even if they put almost all of the features in that we've been asking for, would they withhold an articulating screen? IBIS? FF 4k?

Their marketing department keeps telling us how incredible their cameras are, and yet every single new body has something that turns up missing.


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Sep 06, 2018 20:42 |  #267

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This is wishful thinking.

However, I very much doubt that the next Canon FF mirrorless model will really give us everything that the Sonys give us.

I guarantee that Canon will leave something out. They won't give us everything that we really want/ned because they will be too worried about protecting their pro video camera line, or their flagship DSLR. That's what they always seem to do - hold something back, so that we never get everything we want in one camera body.

Even if they put almost all of the features in that we've been asking for, would they withhold an articulating screen? IBIS? FF 4k?

Their marketing department keeps telling us how incredible their cameras are, and yet every single new body has something that turns up missing.

A few months ago I said somewhere in one of these forums, probably at the introduction of the 6D Mk 2, that instead of worrying about losing sales from one of their camera lines to a different line and deliberately crippling certain cameras (like not improving the sensor in the 6D in 5 years), they should worry about losing sales to other camera manufacturers. To me this looks like they've stepped up in the department quite a bit, I'm not down on this camera at all, looks good to me, maybe because a few of the bigger complaints don't really apply to things I shoot (fps, 4k). Otherwise, with a 30 megapixel sensor that appears to be at least in line with the 5d MK IV, seems to be a lot to like in this one.


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Sep 06, 2018 20:43 |  #268

As I don't know much about video, something confuses me.

I seen a lot of reviews of the A7III say that it's video is better in super 35 mode. Now that has a 1.6x crop so I don't get what the big issue is around Canon cropping their FF video (aside from the lens issues)?


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Sep 06, 2018 21:23 |  #269

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Leaving the switch set to "ON" and putting the camera down for a while can result in getting one shot per battery charge. That's been my experience with mirrorless. All I know is when I pick up my Sony after a long gap in shooting and the camera is very warm, I'm going to be switching to the second battery.

I never have that problem with my 5D3.

Which brings to mind what we used to read about with dSLR sensors and super long exposures (before video became possible with a dSLR)...the sensor heats up, so circuit noise is induced in the image (compared to a cool sensor, not always energized)


...what happened to that fact of physics (heat = circuit noise) for mirrorless cameras ???


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Sep 06, 2018 21:29 |  #270

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But in real life shooters scenarios, I am usually looking through the viewfinder for very long periods of time - often hours at a time, as I wait for whatever it is that I'm waiting for. During this time I will take lots and lots of test shots with various different settings, and will be continually chimping, examining the images on the LCD to scrutinize every little detail about the test images.

That is how I spend my time when I am waiting for something to shoot. It is how I prepare for the opportunity that is to come. And it is VERY battery intensive.

I would hope that battery tests mimic this type of usage, because that is what would best replicate real-life shooting.

...and one does not need to be a big game or wildlife shooter to fall into this specific style of shooting. One merely has to be a photographer at an athletic event, and the EVF will be operating for the full time that you are capturing action. Or be at an airshow. Or shooting the 24 Hours of Le Mans.


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