Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
Thread started 08 Sep 2018 (Saturday) 19:07
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

7d mark ii users - soccer pic help

 
TeleFragger
Goldmember
Avatar
3,188 posts
Likes: 219
Joined Aug 2010
Location: Williamstown, NJ
Post edited over 5 years ago by TeleFragger.
     
Sep 08, 2018 19:07 |  #1

Ok so I haven't used my camera In a long time. Personal issue that I just don't want to go into.

Anyway my kiddo had a soccer tournament and it was on the biggest field as he moved up to u13. so 330'x220' … and thought id give my 70-200 Tammy a workout. In addition, it was so overcast that we were waiting for the rain.

so I tried case 1-4, various AF and just couldn't get anything to work...

so anyone that uses a 7d mark ii or similar AF modes... what do you use?
I couldn't get the camera to stay locked when I chose someone as someone would walk into the pic (ref as example) and it would refocus and not stay locked. When I first looked at this camera online, people said how well it stays locked on its target. Well I cant get it to do that and think it is one of my biggest issues.
I shot in TV mode, auto ISO and 1/640 (I know borderline but due to cloudiness couldn't push it much more)

Not cropped at all... grass at kids feet from left to right look sharp and 33 does.. now when I edited the pic.. I cropped out the 2 on left and red shirt kids and most of jeep on right...

IMAGE: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1887/44511077222_b838208343_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2aPh​UvU  (external link) Tourney (external link) by Jeffrey Riggs (external link), on Flickr

I have a great pic that it totally locked on the background and would of loved the pic of my kid (in bright shirt)…

IMAGE: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/43651178625_3cf0e520f8_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/29vi​GC2  (external link) Pittsgrove2018 (1 of 1) (external link) by Jeffrey Riggs (external link), on Flickr


IMAGE: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1867/43651446955_93f505850d_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/29vk​5op  (external link) LR-FocusPoints (external link) by Jeffrey Riggs (external link), on Flickr

I have a ton of great shots but most are not tac sharp.. they are meh sharp... trying to brushen up and get back into the swing of taking pics this season and tomorrow looks like its going to be another cloudy/gloomy on verge or rain day (as its raining right now)…

so im looking for pointers on what to do. Typically when I shot with my t2i, I did center point focus and was pretty good at it. I can do that with this camera but all the rave on how well the AF system is, I just haven't been able to get the beneficial use of AF...

so off to google and youtube I go to try and get this figured out...

thx for any help all...

GearBag - Feedback****Flickr - my playhouse (external link)****RF-603 Discussion
Canon 7Dm2 Gripped | 32GB Transcend CF | 64GB Toshiba FlashAir | YN-468 Flash | YN-468 II Flash | RF-603 | EF-S 18-55 IS|EF 24-105L|EF 50 MKII 1.8|EF-S 55-250 IS |EF 85 1.8| Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC |Primo's Trigger Stick Monopod | Manfrotto Carbon Fiber Tripod
if I post a pic.. it is there to be picked on... (I have thick skin.. im in IT)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeleFragger
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,188 posts
Likes: 219
Joined Aug 2010
Location: Williamstown, NJ
Post edited over 5 years ago by TeleFragger.
     
Sep 08, 2018 21:11 |  #2

I reset my camera and will be shooting with it tomorrow. did some reading up on CASE and I see that I will try CASE 4 and modified it to -2 for lock so hopefully that gives me what im looking for...


GearBag - Feedback****Flickr - my playhouse (external link)****RF-603 Discussion
Canon 7Dm2 Gripped | 32GB Transcend CF | 64GB Toshiba FlashAir | YN-468 Flash | YN-468 II Flash | RF-603 | EF-S 18-55 IS|EF 24-105L|EF 50 MKII 1.8|EF-S 55-250 IS |EF 85 1.8| Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC |Primo's Trigger Stick Monopod | Manfrotto Carbon Fiber Tripod
if I post a pic.. it is there to be picked on... (I have thick skin.. im in IT)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
NullMember
Goldmember
3,019 posts
Likes: 1130
Joined Nov 2009
     
Sep 09, 2018 01:14 |  #3
bannedPermanently

Personally I would use just a single focus point. (The centre one)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeleFragger
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,188 posts
Likes: 219
Joined Aug 2010
Location: Williamstown, NJ
     
Sep 09, 2018 02:15 |  #4

john crossley wrote in post #18703847 (external link)
Personally I would use just a single focus point. (The centre one)

That is what I used to do... I just see and read so many reviews about advanced AF.. and to go back to center point!!! Hah. Game in 9h and its pouring so most likely no game...


GearBag - Feedback****Flickr - my playhouse (external link)****RF-603 Discussion
Canon 7Dm2 Gripped | 32GB Transcend CF | 64GB Toshiba FlashAir | YN-468 Flash | YN-468 II Flash | RF-603 | EF-S 18-55 IS|EF 24-105L|EF 50 MKII 1.8|EF-S 55-250 IS |EF 85 1.8| Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC |Primo's Trigger Stick Monopod | Manfrotto Carbon Fiber Tripod
if I post a pic.. it is there to be picked on... (I have thick skin.. im in IT)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BigAl007
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,120 posts
Gallery: 556 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 1682
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Repps cum Bastwick, Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, UK.
     
Sep 09, 2018 04:16 |  #5

TeleFragger wrote in post #18703877 (external link)
That is what I used to do... I just see and read so many reviews about advanced AF.. and to go back to center point!!! Hah. Game in 9h and its pouring so most likely no game...


What, they don't play in the rain? I think part of my abiding dislike of football stems from being made to play it in the freezing cold winter rain, or even snow, at school. Oh and being the kid with the dynamic hand/eye coordination that was so bad I was ALWAYS the last one picked for any team.

Alan


alanevans.co.uk (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
NullMember
Goldmember
3,019 posts
Likes: 1130
Joined Nov 2009
     
Sep 09, 2018 04:38 |  #6
bannedPermanently

BigAl007 wrote in post #18703916 (external link)
What, they don't play in the rain? I think part of my abiding dislike of football stems from being made to play it in the freezing cold winter rain, or even snow, at school. Oh and being the kid with the dynamic hand/eye coordination that was so bad I was ALWAYS the last one picked for any team.

Alan

Reminds me of this. (Anyone not from Yorkshire may need subtitles)





  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Choderboy
I like a long knob
7,518 posts
Gallery: 185 photos
Likes: 6398
Joined Jul 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
     
Sep 09, 2018 05:26 as a reply to  @ NullMember's post |  #7

Goalie's talent level inversely proportional to the size of his shorts....


Dave
Image editing OK

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeamSpeed
01010100 01010011
Avatar
40,862 posts
Gallery: 116 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8923
Joined May 2002
Location: Midwest
     
Sep 09, 2018 06:21 |  #8

I use single point AF on both the 7d2 and 5d4 when doing sports where people are close to each other and milling around. Zone AF has its uses but not in sports like basketball or soccer or football.


Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery (external link) My Business Gallery (external link)
"Man only has 5 senses, and sometimes not even that, so if they define the world, the universe, the dimensions of existence, and spirituality with just these limited senses, their view of what-is and what-can-be is very myopic indeed and they are doomed, now and forever."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeleFragger
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,188 posts
Likes: 219
Joined Aug 2010
Location: Williamstown, NJ
     
Sep 09, 2018 07:18 |  #9

BigAl007 wrote in post #18703916 (external link)
What, they don't play in the rain? I think part of my abiding dislike of football stems from being made to play it in the freezing cold winter rain, or even snow, at school. Oh and being the kid with the dynamic hand/eye coordination that was so bad I was ALWAYS the last one picked for any team.

Alan

Yes they play in the rain. If so contemplating standing out there and test weather seal of 7ď mkii and tamron lens hah..

Many fields around are closed but ours isnt yet. 42 miles away...

https://docs.google.co​m …Q/htmlview#gid=​2041208532 (external link)


GearBag - Feedback****Flickr - my playhouse (external link)****RF-603 Discussion
Canon 7Dm2 Gripped | 32GB Transcend CF | 64GB Toshiba FlashAir | YN-468 Flash | YN-468 II Flash | RF-603 | EF-S 18-55 IS|EF 24-105L|EF 50 MKII 1.8|EF-S 55-250 IS |EF 85 1.8| Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC |Primo's Trigger Stick Monopod | Manfrotto Carbon Fiber Tripod
if I post a pic.. it is there to be picked on... (I have thick skin.. im in IT)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Dan ­ Marchant
Do people actually believe in the Title Fairy?
Avatar
5,635 posts
Gallery: 19 photos
Likes: 2058
Joined Oct 2011
Location: Where I'm from is unimportant, it's where I'm going that counts.
     
Sep 09, 2018 07:52 |  #10

TeleFragger wrote in post #18703990 (external link)
Yes they play in the rain. If so contemplating standing out there and test weather seal of 7ď mkii and tamron lens hah..

Don't. The warranty doesn't cover water damage, which should tell you all you need to know about the weather sealing. Buy a rain cover.

As for the AF, I don't know any serious team sport shooters that use anything other than single AF point. Multi-point/Follow may be OK for things like runners or cyclists or vehicles but the chaos of field sports, it just ends up focusing on the wrong thing.


Dan Marchant
Website/blog: danmarchant.com (external link)
Instagram: @dan_marchant (external link)
Gear Canon 5DIII + Fuji X-T2 + lenses + a plastic widget I found in the camera box.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BigAl007
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,120 posts
Gallery: 556 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 1682
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Repps cum Bastwick, Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, UK.
     
Sep 09, 2018 08:15 |  #11

Choderboy wrote in post #18703950 (external link)
Goalie's talent level inversely proportional to the size of his shorts....


I wasn't even allowed to be goalie:rolleyes: All I was ever allowed to be was a defender.

Alan


alanevans.co.uk (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
digital ­ paradise
Awaiting the title ferry...
Avatar
19,772 posts
Gallery: 157 photos
Likes: 16869
Joined Oct 2009
Location: Canada
     
Sep 09, 2018 09:35 |  #12

I use zone AF quite a bit but it has it's limitations. I would not use it at a sporting event.


Image Editing OK

Website (external link) ~ Buy/Sell Feedback

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeleFragger
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
3,188 posts
Likes: 219
Joined Aug 2010
Location: Williamstown, NJ
     
Sep 09, 2018 09:55 |  #13

soccer cancelled so will be another weekend till I get to give another whirl... thx all..


GearBag - Feedback****Flickr - my playhouse (external link)****RF-603 Discussion
Canon 7Dm2 Gripped | 32GB Transcend CF | 64GB Toshiba FlashAir | YN-468 Flash | YN-468 II Flash | RF-603 | EF-S 18-55 IS|EF 24-105L|EF 50 MKII 1.8|EF-S 55-250 IS |EF 85 1.8| Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC |Primo's Trigger Stick Monopod | Manfrotto Carbon Fiber Tripod
if I post a pic.. it is there to be picked on... (I have thick skin.. im in IT)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
digital ­ paradise
Awaiting the title ferry...
Avatar
19,772 posts
Gallery: 157 photos
Likes: 16869
Joined Oct 2009
Location: Canada
     
Sep 09, 2018 10:48 |  #14

If you want to try it in full Auto for a few shots use the initial AF point and and make sure iTR is activated. iTR only works in the 3 zone AF modes. In that situation I'd use Case 6 as it combines Cases 4 and 5. 4 = fast stops and starts and acceleration/decelerat​ion of objects coming/moving away from you. Case 5 is for up/down and left/right. See how well the AF points track after it acquires focus on your subject - using the initial AF point. This depends on how much you want to experiment and waste shots. You can use the C1-3 modes or set up the AF-ON and * buttons so you can move quickly from single point to Auto and vice versa so you don't waste time.

Unless you are trying to shoot two or more players avoid Case 3. Case 2 and TS set to -2 for tracking one player is a good one to use when working with single point or an expansion mode. With TS in a negative setting AF becomes stubborn. After you acquire focus and the AF point goes off target, which it usually does in fast paced environments it will give you time to get it back on your target it before it looks for something else to focus on. Case 3 does the opposite.


Image Editing OK

Website (external link) ~ Buy/Sell Feedback

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tomj
Senior Member
706 posts
Likes: 61
Joined May 2010
     
Sep 09, 2018 11:10 |  #15

I use single point, usually expanded, for pretty much everything. I shoot mostly birds, but also occasional sports. I've tried using zone, but it just hasn't worked well for me. I can see how it might have its uses, but because of my frustration with it I haven't used it enough to find out.


Flickr (external link)
Instagram (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

8,479 views & 16 likes for this thread, 13 members have posted to it and it is followed by 8 members.
7d mark ii users - soccer pic help
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1038 guests, 115 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.