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Sep 18, 2018 17:30 |  #1

OK I am trying to find out what is going on with my flash when I use it at night in a poorly lite Football game. I have a Canon 1D Mark IV using a Canon 70-200 F2.8 VS 2 lens with a Yongnuo YN686EX-RT flash and a Canon cable. Now for Camera settings 1st photo unedited low res JPEG 1250 ISO F2.8 1/300 flash "2nd curtain" on ETTL 2nd photo taken a few moments later at 1000 ISO F2.8 1/300. I was shooting at 8K ISO "10K ISO with out flash" F2.8 1/1000 and the flash on ETTL and the flash was so weak I decided to try these crazy settings. Now with all that being said when I go to a well lite field and shoot 4000 ISO F2.8 1/1000 and ETTL I have zero issues at all.


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Sep 19, 2018 11:30 |  #2

This was a few weeks ago. My settings were 800 ISO, 2.8, 1/250. ETTL and +1.

If you search football flash on here there are some great older threads that talk about flash settings.

I struggle getting it right using flash a lot. I keep working with it and hoping I will get better.


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Sep 21, 2018 19:59 |  #3

You have to make a decision as to whether you are going to stop action with the shutter speed or the t.1 flash duration.

Both present a different look and have pros and cons and either might be required in different situations.

I'd suggest trying high speed sync. Adjust exposure to ambient or at least near it and set the flash to ETTL. The flash will add light under the helmet and help correct the colors, which is what I find most objectionable on poorly lit high school fields.


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Sep 24, 2018 11:07 |  #4

I decide to buy a Canon 600 EX-RT to replace my Yongnuo YN686EX-RT "that I now think has something wrong with the ETTL" and all of my flash issues went away.


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Sep 24, 2018 13:01 |  #5

I have decided against flash for football and just use whatever lights they have on the field. I just don't have the patience to figure out flash lighting for HS sports.


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Sep 24, 2018 14:47 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #6

It is definitely a PITA to try and get right.


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Sep 24, 2018 15:06 |  #7

I trade high ISO for flash. The 1D4 is good to at least 6400. I shoot up to ISO 25600 on the 5D4 now. I don't trust lights up around all the kids milling around the track area near the field.

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Oct 10, 2018 12:03 |  #8

CCapps wrote in post #18711253 (external link)
This was a few weeks ago. My settings were 800 ISO, 2.8, 1/250. ETTL and +1.

If you search football flash on here there are some great older threads that talk about flash settings.

I struggle getting it right using flash a lot. I keep working with it and hoping I will get better.
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the +1 i assume is exposure compensation or flash exposure compensation?




  
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Oct 10, 2018 12:44 as a reply to  @ Ltdave's post |  #9

Flash exposure comp.


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Oct 11, 2018 08:59 |  #10

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18715056 (external link)
I trade high ISO for flash. The 1D4 is good to at least 6400. I shoot up to ISO 25600 on the 5D4 now. I don't trust lights up around all the kids milling around the track area near the field.

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