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Dec 28, 2018 04:44 |  #1846

Pondrader wrote in post #18778835 (external link)
I'm afraid I did the same... and returned one after a few short days... I think its pretty well known now that lenses are as sharp or people feel.... sharper than on other body's.

Lenses don't change sharpness with bodies; lens sharpness, AF accuracy, and lack of extraneous vibrations are three different things. Bigger pixels (than you're used to) are going to look sharper at 100%, and the lack of mirror slap in the R will improve things for people whose shutter-speed choice is right near the cusp of being problematic with mirror slap. With no need for MFA, there is no chance for that to be off.




  
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Dec 28, 2018 04:50 |  #1847

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And all this time I've been using mine to bring far away stuff closer. Who knew! {sigh}

What you have been doing is magnifying things more on the sensor; not bringing them closer, and not bringing you closer, either. If either of those two happened, you'd have a change of perspective.




  
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Dec 28, 2018 05:07 |  #1848

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Dec 28, 2018 07:37 |  #1849

John Sheehy wrote in post #18779367 (external link)
Lenses don't change sharpness with bodies; lens sharpness, AF accuracy, and lack of extraneous vibrations are three different things. Bigger pixels (than you're used to) are going to look sharper at 100%, and the lack of mirror slap in the R will improve things for people whose shutter-speed choice is right near the cusp of being problematic with mirror slap. With no need for MFA, there is no chance for that to be off.

I never implied they did John... Thanks for your unneeded help on the matter. I implied others have said the R brought new life to their lenses...


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Dec 28, 2018 07:45 |  #1850

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I have the User Manual on my Kindle so I will be RTFMing the next few days.
If anyone can help in the meantime that would be good.

Regarding lens IS always on. Today I noticed the 100-400 II IS spinning continually. My first attempt trying to stop that failed - I switched to Mode 3 IS which "only activates during exposure". That description is out dated now I think (ie it was a pre mirrorless description)

I found that if I closed the flippy screen, the IS activates for approx 5 seconds if I hit the AF-ON button. (press momentarily, not hold)

I'd like to have the IS behave like above when I have the flippy screen open, ie screen facing me.


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Dec 28, 2018 08:59 |  #1851

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Well, that sucks...
Sure hope that can be fixed with a firmware update.


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Dec 28, 2018 09:16 as a reply to  @ Trout Bum's post |  #1852

This behaviour started with the M3.

So far my solutions are:

1/ Close the flippin flippy screen. IS then activates for 5 seconds after shutter button half press.
2/ Assign a button to turn the LCD off. IS then stops after 1 second.

Option 2 seems the least objectionable but a light touch on the M-Fn bar wakes it up. It's also a waste of a customisable button.

The most strange aspect of this feature IMHO is that it disables Mode 3 IS.

Newly Added IS Mode 3: The new IS II super-telephoto lenses are the first to introduce Canon’s new IS Mode 3. This new stabilization mode is similar to IS Mode 2 in the respect that it can detect and correct for panning by shutting off IS correction in the panning direction, but the difference is that IS correction occurs only during the actual exposure in IS Mode 3.


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Dec 28, 2018 09:19 |  #1853

The fact Canon implemented this in the M3 and all Ms since then, I don't think they will change this by a firmware update.


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Dec 28, 2018 10:11 |  #1854

Choderboy wrote in post #18779474 (external link)
This behaviour started with the M3.

So far my solutions are:

1/ Close the flippin flippy screen. IS then activates for 5 seconds after shutter button half press.
2/ Assign a button to turn the LCD off. IS then stops after 1 second.

Option 2 seems the least objectionable but a light touch on the M-Fn bar wakes it up. It's also a waste of a customisable button.

The most strange aspect of this feature IMHO is that it disables Mode 3 IS.

Newly Added IS Mode 3: The new IS II super-telephoto lenses are the first to introduce Canon’s new IS Mode 3. This new stabilization mode is similar to IS Mode 2 in the respect that it can detect and correct for panning by shutting off IS correction in the panning direction, but the difference is that IS correction occurs only during the actual exposure in IS Mode 3.

I assigned the Star button to do just that... back a couple weeks ago and it works just fine.


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Dec 28, 2018 10:30 |  #1855

Do you guys think (compared to the 5D4) that the highlights recover a bit better?


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Dec 28, 2018 10:38 |  #1856

Choderboy wrote in post #18779477 (external link)
The fact Canon implemented this in the M3 and all Ms since then, I don't think they will change this by a firmware update.

So why did Canon so this? There must be a reason.




  
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Dec 28, 2018 11:26 |  #1857

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So why did Canon so this? There must be a reason.

I don't think there must be a reason. It could have been an unexpected result, ie a bug but a bug they decided not to fix or would have cost too much to fix.
No other mirrorless from other manufacturers do this. Obviously IS always on is not required as 2 of the 4 RF lenses that exist do not even have IS.


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Dec 28, 2018 12:08 |  #1858

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I never implied they did John... Thanks for your unneeded help on the matter. I implied others have said the R brought new life to their lenses...

Hahahaha I have said the R brings new life to my lenses especially to my vintage ones. EF lenses seem to lock focus much more accurate and faster and with the focus peek in the R really helps me to achieve better focus with all my vintage lenses.


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Dec 28, 2018 12:20 |  #1859

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Hahahaha I have said the R brings new life to my lenses especially to my vintage ones. EF lenses seem to lock focus much more accurate and faster and with the focus peek in the R really helps me to achieve better focus with all my vintage lenses.

I know Issac... many have said the same.. John likes to be derogatory about everything I say... I'm about as far as I can go without getting derogatory myself... If he never addressed anything I say again I would be ok with that... Maybe I should just stop talking... nuff sed....


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Dec 28, 2018 12:48 |  #1860

Pondrader wrote in post #18779583 (external link)
I know Issac... many have said the same.. John likes to be derogatory about everything I say... I'm about as far as I can go without getting derogatory myself... If he never addressed anything I say again I would be ok with that... Maybe I should just stop talking... nuff sed....


haha.. i am wondering if John is an actual hands on R experienced guy something tell me otherwise.. :rolleyes:


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