-= Canon EOS R owners unite! Post photos and discuss.

bbqkid8 wrote in post #18854937
That's funny because I picked up my friend's 7d a couple of weeks ago just to remind myself how a DSLR felt and I was almost totally lost!

I agree with your points, but I have also gotten so used to the camera since I sold off my 7dII to get the R and have come almost completely used to the R's handling.

My only real "gripe" would be that when I have my 500mm f4 II attached, it's quite difficult to access the control ring on the adapter. I have the control ring set to change the ISO. Works well with smaller lenses though.

Same when hand holding w/ the 600.. you’ve gotta hold the lens with left hand, and adjust the control ring with your right hand. Awkward, but doable.

MatthewK wrote in post #18854754
Lot's of good with this camera, but I'm also finding that not everything is rosey either. This might be a case of "who cares", but I thought I'd share:

Yesterday, I picked up the R for the first time in a few weeks, and really smacked in the face by how fiddly the ergos are, and how it isn't a camera I can just pick up and immediately+thoughtles​sly employ. There's just no flow with how this camera is arranged. In no particular order:

A) the wasted real estate that is the touch bar. No matter what I try, there's just nothing that this feature does for me, so I've disabled it and subsequently have a blank spot that could be used by something else.

B) the placement of the AF-On/AF-Point selection/* buttons. Too jumbled together, and quite often I'm hitting the wrong button. In fast shooting situations, I'm having to glance down at the buttons to make sure I'm hitting the right one. Get rid of the bar, and spread out the three buttons horizontally in it's place.

C) the way in which you access sub menus using the Mf-Fn button (out by the shutter button). This is a mess. Hit the Mf-Fn button, you can adjust frame rate/AF mode/EC, etc. Hit that button another time, and it lets you choose AF area mode. But, there's no indication (visual or otherwise) of which menu you will get when you go to hit that Mf-Fn button. Big ergonomic flaw.

D) info displayed along edges of viewfinder/screen. This one is more minor, but is there a way to add/remove things I don't want to see? It's very jumbled. Along with the usual Av/Tv/ISO, I just want to see if I'm in One Shot/Servo, Single Shot or Burst.

If I "set it and forget it", and just work on taking photos, only adjusting Aperture/Shutter/EC via Control Ring/AF point using Touch-Drag, then the camera performs well, but when it comes time to delve into sub-menus or make a quick change, my work flow is interrupted because I have to double check that I'm in the right place in the interface. A camera's ergos should not be something that get in the way. Canon has normally been the gold standard in this arena, but for me this camera is off the mark. I'm going to stick with the R for the rest of the year and continue to give the ergos a fair shake and hopefully figure out a setup that cuts down on the fiddly-ness.

It sure took me time as well to get used to the button locations, hated the size of it in my hand so i bought the grip, the off balance feel with larger lenses which the grip helped stabilize that, M.fn bar was disabled but then i set it to change my AF modes, using the screen to touch and drag AF point took some getting used to, but the more and more i use it the better and faster i get at it. Give it time keep playing with it and eventually it will click, i bought it at release and it has taken me this long to get comfortable with it.

This camera has posed some mixed feelings for me for sure, I do wonder if instead of saving the grand if I would have done better by getting the 5dmkiv. It's been stirring in my mind since before I got the camera. I figured the R was the future, had some good things going for it but kinda runs me in circles.

One has to do with processing the raw files, yes there is DPP and Photoshop and Lightroom but my classic LR6 will not open the files and no updates to it. More Adobe vaporware I suppose. But I knew this for the most part. I suspected DPP was going to have to get me by and my outdated LR6 was probably not going to work or be updated to support newer cameras (I think it'd support the 5d though I'm not sure) why? Because Adobe wants more money (I'd rather pay the 800 bucks every few years then this dumb subscription garbage... But that's another rant.

I have also been trying to get away from Windows (I have no interest in Mac) so of course been trying Linux, namely dark table and raw therapee and I guess Canon has opted not to release things needed for cr3 decoding to these devs. Proprietary software, right? :Rolleyes:

I thought with the camera being released a little while ago, perhaps with a rolling distro raw support would have found its way to Linux. Guess not. Sounds like it's not going to be for a while. I think even the m50 with it's cr3 files are not supported in Linux.

Ok ok, really I do understand. These things where on my mind when I picked up the camera.

Using the aforementioned apps with my other cameras was a bit of a learning curve and challenge as it was in Linux.

Sticking issues number 2 pertains to the RF mount. No doubt this mount has some potential and a couple RF lenses I do find interesting like the 15-35 and 24-70 f/2.8 is (for both if I read things right) but I'm guessing a fairly high price tag (probably explains the slightly lower entry point of the R bodies) and neither can be used on my other 2 bodies (5dmkii and 80d) 3 if I count my elan 7 film body I've been experimenting with lately, that is really irksome.

Once again. I knew this fact: ef glass = does my bodies good, RF glass? Does one body good.

It has also been a bit awkward to use, but more use will probably get me used to it more.

These have been my main issues with this body. I knew this, I researched it but I wonder if I made the wrong choice and shoulda went 5d.

Don't get me wrong I'm not bashing the camera, I made the choice to buy it... The shutter is a nice touch, the potential for decent video should I'm interested in (haven't tried it yet, is the video quality still soft like in the reviews at launch?) No micro adjustment needed, live exposure, dpaf in video mode, nice images off the sensor.

I don't know, maybe I jumped the gun on mirror less

Not really ranting, just giving my honest thoughts about this purchase. Anyone else feel similar?

One of the biggest advatages of this mirroless is that you are already future proof with the new mount if you decide to go that way. EF lenses work flawlessly with the adapter and IMO even better then when attached to a native EF mount camera. One of the reasons I did not jump to the 5d4 was because I own the 5d2 and the 5D3 which are both excellent cameras but I felt I'd be buying something that was still old news. I wanted something new and the R provided that for me. The af system, althought not perfect, just blows my other cameras away. Yes there is much more room for improvement but its is coming. The AF was tweeked with the recent firmware update and I am sure they will continue to do that up until who knows. Not perfect but extremely effective and it will get better. Yes there are better ones out there but for me to transition from Canon to what ever I'd be a waste of time and money to start from the bottom again. I have been thinking to get rid of my 550d which I love and is my first DSLR along with the 5d2 and 5d3 ( my two workhorses) to make room for the next R. We will see how much Canon can squeeze out of this R in terms of performance with FW updates and see what the next R will be like.

Suggestions from a linux user: I am currently using the dng converter from Adobe to convert from cr3 to dng, then I use rawtherapee 5.5 to produce the dng files. The dng converter installs under wine and using the color profiles provided with it (they can be imported in rawtherapee) I get very nice colors. Quite the same to those I get from dpp or directly from camera.

Rawtherapee is much better than dpp imho, and the results I get perfectly satisfy me.

DigitalTuned wrote in post #18855086
One of the biggest advatages of this mirroless is that you are already future proof with the new mount if you decide to go that way. EF lenses work flawlessly with the adapter and IMO even better then when attached to a native EF mount camera. One of the reasons I did not jump to the 5d4 was because I own the 5d2 and the 5D3 which are both excellent cameras but I felt I'd be buying something that was still old news. I wanted something new and the R provided that for me. The af system, althought not perfect, just blows my other cameras away. Yes there is much more room for improvement but its is coming. The AF was tweeked with the recent firmware update and I am sure they will continue to do that up until who knows. Not perfect but extremely effective and it will get better. Yes there are better ones out there but for me to transition from Canon to what ever I'd be a waste of time and money to start from the bottom again. I have been thinking to get rid of my 550d which I love and is my first DSLR along with the 5d2 and 5d3 ( my two workhorses) to make room for the next R. We will see how much Canon can squeeze out of this R in terms of performance with FW updates and see what the next R will be like.

I have no qualms about sticking EF glass on the front of this thing Its what I have been doing in the first place.

Gianpaolo wrote in post #18855091
Suggestions from a linux user: I am currently using the dng converter from Adobe to convert from cr3 to dng, then I use rawtherapee 5.5 to produce the dng files. The dng converter installs under wine and using the color profiles provided with it (they can be imported in rawtherapee) I get very nice colors. Quite the same to those I get from dpp or directly from camera.

Rawtherapee is much better than dpp imho, and the results I get perfectly satisfy me.

Tried installing wine and adobe DNG converter, 11.2.1 (I think) and it promptly crashed. downloaded DPP and all it did was extract and hang. I am using Manjaro 18. I have had nothing but issues with the box since I built it. As much as I try to get into Linux and be a user, its honestly growing to be a PITA to find all these work arounds and try to make things work. I want to make it work.

I think one issue is everything I am using is pretty much new... new raw format, new APU, a Ryzen 2200g etc.

wxjef wrote in post #18855115
I have no qualms about sticking EF glass on the front of this thing Its what I have been doing in the first place.

Same, all EF glass, and it works flawlessly.

MatthewK wrote in post #18855130
Same, all EF glass, and it works flawlessly.

I make 3.

I make 4
And i could not be happier with their performance on this camera.

Choderboy wrote in post #18851623
Bargain for Australian buyers

Georges:
Canon EOS R Mirrorless Digital Camera (Body Only)
Bonus EF-EOSR Mount Adapter
$2,408.00
(*After $200 cashback)

Thats cheap considering I was looking at one in a camera house in Perth and they had $3999 for just the body. Im afraid I need lotto to get anything new at the moment I still enjoy looking through many threads of cameras I dont even own though

Pondrader wrote in post #18853606
Sure could Lonely Boy.. But the green of the foliage takes away from the blue water and sky. Although… Who am I to say. I like it if you desaturate the green a bunch.

Lol it sure feels that way sometimes does it not.. ?? The people of the world are so fickle. It is the most hated camera by those who have never tried it lol

I thought that label went to the 7D and 7DII

wxjef wrote in post #18855117
Tried installing wine and adobe DNG converter, 11.2.1 (I think) and it promptly crashed. downloaded DPP and all it did was extract and hang. I am using Manjaro 18. I have had nothing but issues with the box since I built it. As much as I try to get into Linux and be a user, its honestly growing to be a PITA to find all these work arounds and try to make things work. I want to make it work.

I think one issue is everything I am using is pretty much new... new raw format, new APU, a Ryzen 2200g etc.

I am using DNG concerter 11.1 , which I installed using wine 3.0.4 following these instructions: https://rawpedia.rawth​erapee.com …onvert_raw_form​ats_to_DNG The only change I made was to set WINEARCH=win64 (the default, if you leave it unset).

Here is a picture I got a couple of days ago. It's not particularly fancy, but it represent a good example of an hdr image that requires some tricks to capture the full tonal range. First it is the straight-out-of-camera jpg, than the jpg I got from rawtherapee just applying the shadow/highlights + tone mapping + dynamic range compresion + graduate filter tools, with their default settings. Tweaking the settings you could adapt the results to your tests.

As I mentioned in a previous post, I am using the dcp profile for the Canon R that comes with the dng converter.

After reading through this post, watching countless YouTube Videos and even almost switching over to Sony for the last 6 months, I finally dove right into the R. The current price w/Control Ring upgrade through Canon Street Price was just good enough for me not to keep holding off..

aladyforty wrote in post #18855241
I thought that label went to the 7D and 7DII

And I would have given that title to the 6D/ 6D2 which were crushed online at announcement but sold quite well.