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May 03, 2019 06:46 |  #4036

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And I would have given that title to the 6D/ 6D2 which were crushed online at announcement but sold quite well.


A friend of mine just got a 6DII and loves it


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May 03, 2019 07:24 |  #4037

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I thought that label went to the 7D and 7DII:-)

Ummmm NOPE.. The 7D was a super camera… still have mine. Without the 7DII the last 5 years would have been quite uneventful and boring. And you would not have been as amused in the POTN pages as you have been. I did say people had serious trouble trying to shoot it after the release.. because they did. I had more than a few wishing to know just how I could get the images I was getting out of it. and more than a few got quite upset about their difficulties with the 7DII. Its all in the 7DII thread.. its a long read.


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May 03, 2019 07:44 |  #4038

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Thats cheap considering I was looking at one in a camera house in Perth and they had $3999 for just the body. Im afraid I need lotto to get anything new at the moment :lol: I still enjoy looking through many threads of cameras I dont even own though

Aside from the Leederville one, most of the camera houses aim to rip people off. My friend used to work for the CBD one and left because of how dodgy the manager runs the store.

When I lived in Perth I mainly bought online and even here in Sydney I don't particularly trust a lot of the retailers. Although in QLD, I've got the absolute best service from Camera Pro and would choose them over a local store majority of the time.


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May 03, 2019 07:56 |  #4039

Trying to seperate rumor from fact: Is there in the pipeline a plus-version of the Canon EOS R? Some are calling this the R-Pro. I've heard this rumor on and off since the intro of the EOS R.

When the RP came out, it was a lesser (version and price) than the R, so I am mainly wondering if Canon intends to continue with only two versions of their flagship mirrorless line, or expand it upward.


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May 03, 2019 08:02 |  #4040

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Trying to seperate rumor from fact: Is there in the pipeline a plus-version of the Canon EOS R? Some are calling this the R-Pro. I've heard this rumor on and off since the intro of the EOS R.

When the RP came out, it was a lesser (version and price) than the R, so I am mainly wondering if Canon intends to continue with only two versions of their flagship mirrorless line, or expand it upward.

There is no pro R camera.. Only wishful thinking on the part of those that think they need more from the EOS R… Unless Canon goes out of business there will be a successor. :p


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May 03, 2019 08:36 |  #4041

golfecho wrote in post #18855417 (external link)
Trying to seperate rumor from fact: Is there in the pipeline a plus-version of the Canon EOS R? Some are calling this the R-Pro. I've heard this rumor on and off since the intro of the EOS R.

When the RP came out, it was a lesser (version and price) than the R, so I am mainly wondering if Canon intends to continue with only two versions of their flagship mirrorless line, or expand it upward.

Ignore rumours, listen to Canon Inc.

January 2019:
https://www.imaging-resource.com …eos-r-do-they-have-a-plan (external link)

Yoshiyuki Mizoguchi, Group Executive, ICB Products Group, Image Communication Business Operations at Canon Inc.Mizoguchi-san is the top product-planning executive within Canon, Inc. responsible for planning their camera offerings. As such, he's the person who'll know where Canon is and where they're going with the EOS R line, and what the reasons were for their initial body and lens offerings.

We are developing multiple EOS R cameras now but due to varying levels of preferred features we are likely to launch an amateur model next to let a large group of customers step up and enjoy full-frame image quality. Have no doubt that a professional model is coming, but perhaps it may not be the next model we introduce
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The amateur model release prediction has proven to be true.
Since that statement by Canon Inc they say they have been surprised at reduced sales of interchangeable lens cameras.
Unless canon makes big plan changes, a Pro level is coming.


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May 03, 2019 08:38 |  #4042

I think "pro" is overated nomenclature at this point. If this camera had two slots, IBIS, and didn't have a 4k crop, it would be all the rage. I don't miss any of the of those things though I do sort of hate the crop factor. This camera is as "pro" as it gets as far as capabilities. The next one will just have other "features" this one doesn't.




  
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May 03, 2019 08:51 as a reply to  @ WilsonFlyer's post |  #4043

I see no reason not to use the language Canon uses. Particularly when the language comes with qualifications:

Particularly interesting is Mizoguchi-san's mention of a coming pro-level model. In the back-and-forth, I asked him specifically if "pro-level" meant AF performance at the level of a 1D X Mark II, and he replied that that is what they mean by "pro-level": no-excuses levels of performance.


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May 03, 2019 09:55 |  #4044

It's funny how some have chosen to somehow magically relegate the R to some sort of magical "non-pro" level/status when the xxD line is clearly aimed at the prosumer customer and the R stands clearly above the xxD line. The R is clearly not a Tx(i) type of device that has always been Canon's "consumer" lineup. The R is clearly a pro camera as much as the 6DII was/is even though the Mk IV is in the lineup at a higher level feature-wise. As far as I'm concerned, the RP fits the same bill.

By that type of argument, the Mk IV is clearly not a "pro" camera because it's not a 1DX. The looking down noses at people just because they didn't write as big of a check as you did is getting tired and long of tooth and it's not a good look. The proof is in the pictures. Period.




  
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May 03, 2019 09:57 |  #4045

If the next R camera is limited to the level of the 1DxII level of AF there will be a mutiny against the Canon brand I think. People expect now a level of AF that detects your subject and locks on it regardless of speed or movement, keeping that subjects eye in focus all the while with edge to edge 5655 AF points. People forget the capabilities of these new cameras and compare unreasonably one against the other.

The 1DxII in all its splender can not do these things… Sony will not stop their forward movement on these AF systems. The canon R is much improved at keeping human faces in focus at gatherings for stills and during video. Its quite a thing to pan a room and have your camera grab onto the next face without any AF point change made by the shooter. It can be influenced and guided with simple camera movements and or locking on to a subject. This is the future of AF systems not the SLR version of yesterday. If you've never seen it or tried it you missing out.

When the sony releases the animal AF everything we discuss now will be completely forgotten.


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May 03, 2019 10:25 |  #4046

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Tried installing wine and adobe DNG converter, 11.2.1 (I think) and it promptly crashed. downloaded DPP and all it did was extract and hang. I am using Manjaro 18. I have had nothing but issues with the box since I built it. As much as I try to get into Linux and be a user, its honestly growing to be a PITA to find all these work arounds and try to make things work. I want to make it work.

I think one issue is everything I am using is pretty much new... new raw format, new APU, a Ryzen 2200g etc.

Looks like you should have built a dual boot machine. I haven't had to deal with CR3 files yet but I am taking baby steps with the linux raw editors.

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May 03, 2019 10:45 |  #4047

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Looks like you should have built a dual boot machine. I haven't had to deal with CR3 files yet but I am taking baby steps with the linux raw editors.

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If you want and CR3 files to try Rod… Just let me know.. They will be my blurry @ss pics though


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May 03, 2019 10:50 |  #4048

The Canon CR3 files use a new compression scheme that Canon has not released documentation for; no one in the open source community has yet cracked it, although some progress has been made. So smaller RAW processors such as PhotoNinja, Raw Therapee, etc. are in the dark at the moment (presumably Adobe has some monetary arrangement with Canon). Right now all you can do for the M50/R/RP is use Adobe's freeware DNG converter and then process the DNGs with your RAW editor. Clunky, but it does work for the most part.

You would think it would be in Canon's best interest to release documentation for this, but clearly my thought process and that in Japan are not co-linear.


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May 03, 2019 10:54 |  #4049

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They will be my blurry @ss pics though

Begs the question, whose ass did you use for the pics?




  
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May 03, 2019 11:10 |  #4050

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Begs the question, whose ass did you use for the pics?

These will be fresh and new.. so the question is Whom ??


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