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Dec 27, 2019 15:39 |  #6721

Pheeew... I finally catched up with this thread. So many useful tips.
I bought my R back in October and it is a truly amazing camera.
It took a bit of getting used to. In some ways it is much like the DSLRs I have used previously, but in other ways it is a completely different beast.
Now, I think I have it set up pretty much like I want it. When paired with my Tamron 24-70mm G2 it is close to fit all my needs.
I do think I need to get a Control ring adapter and maybe the “mini”-grip that Meike produces.

One thing I’ve noticed is that the colors are really good. I usually prefer to work in black and white, but with the R I seem to end up with color versions more often.

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Dec 27, 2019 15:46 |  #6722

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Outstanding......well done :-)


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Dec 27, 2019 15:47 |  #6723

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A few shots on Lake Michigan testing out my new RF 70-200
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A wonderful combination of camera and lens.
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Dec 27, 2019 19:38 |  #6724

One common theme for many people is how much better their EF lenses are on the R. In my experience this seems to be partly because the R focuses more consistently but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's because people simply didn't MFA their lenses properly on their DSLR's?

I used to sing the praises of MFA'ing but there were so many naysayers that it became quite tiresome. A little piece of me wants to hope that those people are amongst the many who are noticing the EF lens improvements :-)


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Dec 27, 2019 20:05 |  #6725

mccamli wrote in post #18981645 (external link)
One common theme for many people is how much better their EF lenses are on the R. In my experience this seems to be partly because the R focuses more consistently but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's because people simply didn't MFA their lenses properly on their DSLR's?

I used to sing the praises of MFA'ing but there were so many naysayers that it became quite tiresome. A little piece of me wants to hope that those people are amongst the many who are noticing the EF lens improvements :-)

I hated MFA but I did it. I rented a community college to do 800mm using FoCal. I will be never miss it. I’ve said before. I’ll probably never get another DSLR. Focus is much better in general and faster using my 400 DO and 2X.


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Dec 27, 2019 20:32 |  #6726

Just got the EOS R. With 24mm F/2.8 IS lens. Straight out of the camera. Really nice color.

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Dec 27, 2019 20:56 |  #6727

mccamli wrote in post #18981645 (external link)
One common theme for many people is how much better their EF lenses are on the R. In my experience this seems to be partly because the R focuses more consistently but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's because people simply didn't MFA their lenses properly on their DSLR's? ...

I'm sure those are both parts of the equation. The 3rd part of the "triangle" would be that unless they are coming from a 5D4,. they are almost certainly getting a huge sensor/IQ update.

Mix that sensors' secret sauce into the accurate (sharp) AF ingredients, and UMAMI! Hard to ignore that recipe.


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Dec 27, 2019 23:02 |  #6728

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I hated MFA but I did it. I rented a community college to do 800mm using FoCal. I will be never miss it. I’ve said before. I’ll probably never get another DSLR. Focus is much better in general and faster using my 400 DO and 2X.

LOL, that is going to the extreme! I had FoCal too but I can't say every measurement was identical. Lighting, temperature and other atmospherics all seemed to have an impact. For longer lenses I used the FoCal rests as a base but pretty much did a rough and ready MFA on location. I'm already missing that like a hole in the head!

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I'm sure those are both parts of the equation. The 3rd part of the "triangle" would be that unless they are coming from a 5D4,. they are almost certainly getting a huge sensor/IQ update.

Mix that sensors' secret sauce into the accurate (sharp) AF ingredients, and UMAMI! Hard to ignore that recipe.

Yes, you're probably not wrong about the sensor's secret sauce! It's interesting how there are so many that deride it.


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Dec 28, 2019 00:01 |  #6729

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LOL, that is going to the extreme! I had FoCal too but I can't say every measurement was identical. Lighting, temperature and other atmospherics all seemed to have an impact. For longer lenses I used the FoCal rests as a base but pretty much did a rough and ready MFA on location. I'm already missing that like a hole in the head!

Definitely. Lighting, temperature and other atmospherics have an impact. I tested that. That is why even Canon talks about the light source when you MFA. I tested different distances. Different results.

Well it is a bit extreme but not too bad. The college rents the entire area out for events. I've shot post wedding ceremony, engagement, etc shots there before. $50 an hr and I booked it for one. I was well over 2 hrs but the security guards could see me from their office so they didn't care. Long foyer with a concrete floor so little vibration. I booked it on a Saturday in the summer so there where hardly any people around.

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Dec 28, 2019 06:25 |  #6730

Just tested another R, it is a refurb unit which came with the old firmware. Upgraded before use. I bought Amy one too, upgraded firmware but have not tested it yet.

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Dec 28, 2019 07:04 as a reply to  @ robamy's post |  #6731

No af issues Rob? I am having them with300 2.8 plus 2.0 tc


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Dec 28, 2019 09:27 |  #6733

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No issues at all. I actually went out this morning with the 2x on the DO II with the new R to test things out. I have not tried Amy's R or DO II yet. My DO II works with both my R's. My 400 f2.8 has never had issues with the AF. A couple people on FM said they are having issues with the 400mm DO II, the AF jumps in the EVF. I tried it with both the basic and control ring adaptor. I have not had that happen. What issues are you having?


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No issues at all. I actually went out this morning with the 2x on the DO II with the new R to test things out. I have not tried Amy's R or DO II yet. My DO II works with both my R's. My 400 f2.8 has never had issues with the AF. A couple people on FM said they are having issues with the 400mm DO II, the AF jumps in the EVF. I tried it with both the basic and control ring adaptor. I have not had that happen. What issues are you having?

I posted this in the R tech thread here but got no responses. In the Facebook EOS R group two people responded that they were having the same issues, one with long primes and one with a zoom combo see below.

With my 3002.8 prime and 2x TC both the newest versions. If the lens focus point is say resting at or near infinity and I pick the camera and lens up to focus on something closer, the AF doesn't move. I have to manually move it to the closer range for it to lock on. The opposite happens too. It the lens is sitting focused close and I place something in the viewfinder far away, nothing happens until I give the focus a "running start". It is like there is not enough juice to run the whole focus range in the camera on this combo. This of course makes my standard 300 f2.8 with 2.0 TC@ that I use so successfully on my 5DIV and 7DII useless on the R for wildlife. So far I have not had this issue on the 100-400 ii with the R. Someone on Facebook said he has this issue with the 100-400 and the 1.4 TC. I also use that combo but have not tried it on the R yet with the TC. Maybe I will today. EDIT: Same thing happens with the 100-400 and 1.4TC. A little better but still basically the same issue- not enough juice to go from infinity to up close.

I am wondering if this is an intrinsic limitation or a setting that needs to be changed. I can't figure it out. But it is not making me happy.

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Dec 28, 2019 12:09 |  #6735

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I posted this in the R tech thread here but got no responses. In the Facebook EOS R group two people responded that they were having the same issues, one with long primes and one with a zoom combo see below.

With my 3002.8 prime and 2x TC both the newest versions. If the lens focus point is say resting at or near infinity and I pick the camera and lens up to focus on something closer, the AF doesn't move. I have to manually move it to the closer range for it to lock on. The opposite happens too. It the lens is sitting focused close and I place something in the viewfinder far away, nothing happens until I give the focus a "running start". It is like there is not enough juice to run the whole focus range in the camera on this combo. This of course makes my standard 300 f2.8 with 2.0 TC@ that I use so successfully on my 5DIV and 7DII useless on the R for wildlife. So far I have not had this issue on the 100-400 ii with the R. Someone on Facebook said he has this issue with the 100-400 and the 1.4 TC. I also use that combo but have not tried it on the R yet with the TC. Maybe I will today. EDIT: Same thing happens with the 100-400 and 1.4TC. A little better but still basically the same issue- not enough juice to go from infinity to up close.

I am wondering if this is an intrinsic limitation or a setting that needs to be changed. I can't figure it out. But it is not making me happy.

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I assume a setting. Have you tried moving the sliders? I found using auto point switching set to the fastest, your accel slider set to plus 1 and your locked on (never on the locked lowest setting) but I do use the others, this has worked best for me. Also using the lens limiter switch helps a lot so you do not travel the entire focal plane if you do not need too. I also have everything I do not use/need shutoff/disabled. I also found the focus square set to small works better. Mine works with the 400 f2.8 Mk III, 200-400mm, 400mm DO II, 70-200mm without focus issues. I have the grip too, makes no difference with the grip or without. Not sure if it matters but I use back button focus too. Amy does not use back button focus, so that will be a good test. I will try tomorrow with her setup and see if there are issues. Sorry for the troubles with yours.


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