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More fur, but Koala fur this time.

Taken with the EOS R / RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM

Cheers

Dennis

nardes wrote in post #18750029
More fur, but Koala fur this time.

Taken with the EOS R / RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM

Cheers

Dennis

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Here's a question you may or may not be able to answer. If you did event or weddings (just suppose at least) ... would you rather have this RF 24-105mm with its 5 stops of IS, or a 24-70mm 2.8?

Reason I ask, is I have the latter. A Tamron 2.8. But I'm beginning to wonder if this new RF 24-105 may be able to supplant Canon or Tamron's 24-70 2.8's since there's only one stop difference on the aperture side of things.

Trying out this wifi thing on self using both my godox AD360II and the Godox X1T to fire them off


no flash... testing

mdvaden wrote in post #18750034
Here's a question you may or may not be able to answer. If you did event or weddings (just suppose at least) ... would you rather have this RF 24-105mm with its 5 stops of IS, or a 24-70mm 2.8?

Reason I ask, is I have the latter. A Tamron 2.8. But I'm beginning to wonder if this new RF 24-105 may be able to supplant Canon or Tamron's 24-70 2.8's since there's only one stop difference on the aperture side of things.

I think I would have to assess how important F2.8 is to my shooting style in terms of its ability to isolate the subject from the back ground, compared to an F4 lens.

Also, would the increased FL range up to 105mm add something to weddings; covering the range from 24 to 105mm may mean fewer lens changes than the lesser 24 to 70mm coverage of the F2.8 lens?

I used to have the EF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM (Mk I) and it never seemed to perform to meet my expectations (5D Mk III), whereas the RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM blows it out of the water in my usage to date. I am really happy with this lens in terms of the real world results so far, all in good light I might add.

I guess if you really need to shoot in low light a lot, without flash, then the +1 stop of the 24-70mm F2.8 would allow you drop the ISO down one notch and that could be very useful.

Tough decision – I don’t envy you as I am just a hobbyist.

Cheers

Dennis

umphotography wrote in post #18750004
Impressive detail in that Fur

Sio this is adapted. How was the AF compared to your DSLR

100-400LII on the control ring adapter... I don't believe I have done better with any camera..

Depends on how steady you are. If you are very steady in your shooting, then go for the optical light gain over IS because it changes your DOF and gives you a stop of ISO. If you are a bit shaky, as we all seem to get the older we are, then IS is more important. You can always clean 1 stop of noise up pretty easily without detriment to detail, but you cannot fix blurry.

mdvaden wrote in post #18750034
Here's a question you may or may not be able to answer. If you did event or weddings (just suppose at least) ... would you rather have this RF 24-105mm with its 5 stops of IS, or a 24-70mm 2.8?

Reason I ask, is I have the latter. A Tamron 2.8. But I'm beginning to wonder if this new RF 24-105 may be able to supplant Canon or Tamron's 24-70 2.8's since there's only one stop difference on the aperture side of things.

My opinion

Probably will do ok on this sensor. Would need to see what a 12800 ISO file is going to look like. hand holding a lens at 1/20 is awesome but probably useless for my needs. Inside on a dance floor its going to be motion blur from subject movement. Shooting a non moving object is another story. I think with flash assist a 12800 file is going to be good

If they come out with a pro body and it has a clean sensor with 1Dx2, D5 & A9 capabilities.....No need for F/2.8 glass in my opinion

umphotography wrote in post #18750198
My opinion

Probably will do ok on this sensor. Would need to see what a 12800 ISO file is going to look like. hand holding a lens at 1/20 is awesome but probably useless for my needs. Inside on a dance floor its going to be motion blur from subject movement. Shooting a non moving object is another story. I think with flash assist a 12800 file is going to be good

If they come out with a pro body and it has a clean sensor with 1Dx2, D5 & A9 capabilities.....No need for F/2.8 glass in my opinion

Glad you chimed it too.

I'm curious how others may feel swapping the new RF 24-105mm for their 24-70mm 2.8 if they could not afford both or didn't want both. Reasons I don't have my version-one 24-105mm anymore is because it's image quality wasn't comparable to my 24-70 or 70-200s. But I'm seeing that the new RF 24-105 seems as good or better than most 24-70s for sharpness and image look. 60% of my shooting is forest or scenery at f/5.6 to f/11.

So I started thinking whether it makes more sense to get the new RF 24-105mm. At weddings or events, I still keep 35mm 1.4 ... 50mm 1.2 ... 85mm 1.2 and 70-200mm 2.8 ... That leaves me with faster than 2.8 within a 24-70's range and beyond. But SWAPPING for the RF 24-105mm would offer much better zoom range, excellent image quality, without ADDING bulk of one more lens.

And it is just ONE stop between the two zooms, while keeping several lenses that preserve two or three stops faster than the 24-70.

I can see if someone enjoys zooms to cover a dance floor, one stop could make the difference between 1/100 and 1/200 unless they push ISO from 1600 to 3200, because IS isn't going to take care of something like that.

So this is sort of my situation as well.

Grabbed the R and the RF 50 1.2 (amazing!!). Plus the EF adapter. I already have a 5DIV, along with a 16-35L II, 24-70L II, 70-200L II and 100-400L II. I'm trying to decide if it's worth buying more RF lenses or not? That 28-70 F2 looks incredible, but holy crap, $3k?

You have the 24-70L and the adapter? Is it THAT much better than what you have already? Remember that your investment into the eco system is permanent with the RF mount. There is no adapter to use those lenses on the DSLR's, and because of the pinouts, there may never will be.

Blue Banded Bee in flight, taken today with Canon EOS R / EF-RF Adapter / Canon 100mm F2.8L IS USM Macro lens / Canon EX600RT Speedlite.

Cheers

Dennis

nardes wrote in post #18750564
Blue Banded Bee in flight, taken today with Canon EOS R / EF-RF Adapter / Canon 100mm F2.8L IS USM Macro lens / Canon EX600RT Speedlite.

Cheers

Dennis

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very cool shot...

Dennis did you try higher iso's and faster shutters... just interested in how they would have come out too ??

Pondrader wrote in post #18750568
very cool shot...

Dennis did you try higher iso's and faster shutters... just interested in how they would have come out too ??

With the speedlte as the main light source, faster shutter becomes totally optional. The flash freezes the action.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18750577
With the speedlte as the main light source, faster shutter becomes totally optional. The flash freezes the action.

Totally true... I live in the dark world... somehow I skipped the hole speed light part of the post... as you were.

Pondrader wrote in post #18750568
very cool shot...

Dennis did you try higher iso's and faster shutters... just interested in how they would have come out too ??

Hi Jeff

As CDS wrote, I use 1/200sec, F11 at ISO100 to "kill" the ambient light with the off-camera Speedlite providing all the illumination, so effectively the duration of the flash becomes the shutter speed, which freezes the action.

Without the Speedlite, I would probably require something like 1/1000 sec, a much higher ISO and lots of bright daylight. As most insects tend to be hidden in the dark depths of a bush or shrub, I need the Speedlite to dig them out of the shadows.

This Dragonfly (same camera settings etc.) made life easier by keeping still.

Cheers

Dennis

EDIT: Added the Easter Water Dragon (same camera, lens, settings, etc.)