-= Canon EOS R owners unite! Post photos and discuss.

randy98mtu wrote in post #18755659
I will start by saying I don't push the extreme ISO's that much. That said, in the 3200 and up range I find lower and/or more pleasing noise. The problem comes when you are trying to push well beyond 12800. Let's face it, a lot of times when we take shots at that ISO, it's really really dark and we try to pull a lot in post. This shot was in low but decent light at f/4 with the EOS R and RF 24-105. ISO 12800. Looks great to me. Also a screenshot of the LR sliders. The noise reduction slider is at 0.

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Thanks Randy... I don’t think there was s a camera yet that is going to the extreme... but that little edge is all we can ask for... I know I was amazed at some of the images I took at 12,800. Just amazing coming from a 7DII where my upper limit was way way way below that.

I know we still can’t shoot at those speeds all the time but darn it’s good sometimes.

I know I would appreciate a few images of that fur at normal speeds and a little distance. Like how sharp can you get that dog lol.. maybe go out in the back yard and shoot some deer.

randy98mtu wrote in post #18755659
I will start by saying I don't push the extreme ISO's that much. That said, in the 3200 and up range I find lower and/or more pleasing noise. The problem comes when you are trying to push well beyond 12800. Let's face it, a lot of times when we take shots at that ISO, it's really really dark and we try to pull a lot in post. This shot was in low but decent light at f/4 with the EOS R and RF 24-105. ISO 12800. Looks great to me. Also a screenshot of the LR sliders. The noise reduction slider is at 0.

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Here is the problem

12800 is generally Crapola light. You cant fix crapola light. You can only deal with it and try to make it better

I am liking what I see

so close to just getting one of these EOS R's for studio needs. And just use it as a candid body for weddings. Main work flow on the 1Dx2 and 5D4.......very very close to pulling the trigger

I hope they offer a 7DIII with the RF mount, and everything the 7DII currently has.. then I will buy one for sure..
I really want to play with those new lenses, but the current R doesn't do all my 5DIV does... yet...

Honestly the debate at High iso is so far to the edge of what I do that isn't much of a consideration.

I refuse to part with my beloved 5D4. But I've sold my 5D3 and enough underutilized lenses to be able to give this thing a try.

ksbal wrote in post #18755761
I hope they offer a 7DIII with the RF mount, and everything the 7DII currently has.. then I will buy one for sure..
I really want to play with those new lenses, but the current R doesn't do all my 5DIV does... yet...

Honestly the debate at High iso is so far to the edge of what I do that isn't much of a consideration.

Thats is totally true for 99% of the population including me... but sometimes it would be very nice to be able to stop down a tad and still increases the shutter just a bit... Its always going to be just a tiny bit but it would feel like a new beginning. I dont think anyone would normally use 12,800 for anything they were serious about but if its a last ditch effort for the average guy... well glad I'm not carrying a 7DII.

I have never used the 5Div but I'm sure they both have their qualities...

AeroSmith wrote in post #18755830
I refuse to part with my beloved 5D4. But I've sold my 5D3 and enough underutilized lenses to be able to give this thing a try.

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Gona be fun at your house tonight...

Congrats...

I finally got my hands on the R yesterday for about 6 hours. I think it is a capable body with a lot of nice features. It is better than some of the reviews and comments coming from people who have never had it in had for sure. I think it could be a very good camera for a lot of users. For wildlife I can't see myself moving away from any of my current bodies in favour of the R though. I tried it with 3 different pairs of gloves. The two tactile models were very fiddly when moving the focus point on the touch screen regardless of the sensitivity setting. The open-fingered gloves were fine of course but not really an option in very cold temperatures. I did try programming the D pad to function like a joystick but it requires an extra press and overall operation is not as nice as a joystick. I really hope future models include a joystick.

nqjudo wrote in post #18755884
I finally got my hands on the R yesterday for about 6 hours. I think it is a capable body with a lot of nice features. It is better than some of the reviews and comments coming from people who have never had it in had for sure. I think it could be a very good camera for a lot of users. For wildlife I can't see myself moving away from any of my current bodies in favour of the R though. I tried it with 3 different pairs of gloves. The two tactile models were very fiddly when moving the focus point on the touch screen regardless of the sensitivity setting. The open-fingered gloves were fine of course but not really an option in very cold temperatures. I did try programming the D pad to function like a joystick but it requires an extra press and overall operation is not as nice as a joystick. I really hope future models include a joystick.

Norm whats the extra press your talking about because I did not need any extra press and I programmed the set button to centre the AF point... As for wild life this camera is not meant to be in competition with any camera I don't think. Not that it can't be used for such... it has its limiting features..

At times I've even had my problems with the AF on button on the 7DII at -35 / -40 ...

Pondrader wrote in post #18755902
Norm whats the extra press your talking about because I did not need any extra press and I programmed the set button to centre the AF point... As for wild life this camera is not meant to be in competition with any camera I don't think. Not that it can't be used for such... it has its limiting features..

At times I've even had my problems with the AF on button on the 7DII at -35 / -40 ...

Sorry, Jeff. I kind of worded that wrong. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I didn't find the d pad as seamless as using a joystick. Especially with gloves on I kind of slid around a lot more than I would have otherwise. Extra presses for me I guess. I agree that the camera may not be intended to be in competition with other cameras for wildlife but that was my use and those are my findings. You used the camera for wildlife and faced different challenges. I'm just expressing mine compared to the other bodies that I have on hand with respect to features that are important to me but obviously of varying concern to everyone else. I don't think the issue of selecting AF points in cold weather or where hand protection is required is limited to wildlife. Sports photography, street photography and a number of other photographic pursuits take place in inclement conditions. It is a limitation that my be of interest well beyond the realm of wildlife.

Merci. Gotta say, it's nice to already have an LP-E6N charged up.

nqjudo wrote in post #18755915
Sorry, Jeff. I kind of worded that wrong. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I didn't find the d pad as seamless as using a joystick. Especially with gloves on I kind of slid around a lot more than I would have otherwise. Extra presses for me I guess. I agree that the camera may not be intended to be in competition with other cameras for wildlife but that was my use and those are my findings. You used the camera for wildlife and faced different challenges. I'm just expressing mine compared to the other bodies that I have on hand with respect to features that are important to me but obviously of varying concern to everyone else. I don't think the issue of selecting AF points in cold weather or where hand protection is required is limited to wildlife. Sports photography, street photography and a number of other photographic pursuits take place in inclement conditions. It is a limitation that my be of interest well beyond the realm of wildlife.

Thats the truth.. I think you could be right about the big glove thing.. I shot it and moved the af point but I dont remember thinking about it. I have started using a high tech glove thinner glove inside a heavier glove for -20c and below. I did the same with the 7DII.. I do find the R moves across the screen faster than the 7DII ever did. They have heated gloves out there.. I'm interested in trying those out too.

I was more talking about the physical limitations of the R in that its adaptive Af could be and is just a smidge slower in following a subject. That is the challenge and the thing that begs me to use an R.

Pondrader wrote in post #18755930
Thats the truth.. I think you could be right about the big glove thing.. I shot it and moved the af point but I dont remember thinking about it. I have started using a high tech glove thinner glove inside a heavier glove for -20c and below. I did the same with the 7DII.. I do find the R moves across the screen faster than the 7DII ever did. They have heated gloves out there.. I'm interested in trying those out too.

I was more talking about the physical limitations of the R in that its adaptive Af could be and is just a smidge slower in following a subject. That is the challenge and the thing that begs me to use an R.

Well speaking of AF that was better than I had expected based on my previous experience with mirrorless. Especially when the light started to disappear.

If you're looking for specialized winter photography gloves check out the Heat 3 Smart. They are very pricey for gloves but you'll likely never want to wear another glove while shooting in the cold once you try them.

nqjudo wrote in post #18755940
Well speaking of AF that was better than I had expected based on my previous experience with mirrorless. Especially when the light started to disappear.

If you're looking for specialized winter photography gloves check out the Heat 3 Smart. They are very pricey for gloves but you'll likely never want to wear another glove while shooting in the cold once you try them.

Apparently it can focus in the dark lol... but its the speed of acquisition and sustainability that I wonder about. and frame rate. The only real answer is to shoot it for a while and see. but ya don't see Canon sending me an EOS R.... you would think after all the 7DII's I sold for them they would at least lend me one for a year...

This is the cutest thing! Especially with the 35/1.8IS mounted on it. Feels good.

It feels like a meaty version of my very first Canon camera, an AE-1 my father bought me from B&H in 1979 when I was 11 ( he worked in NYC at the time). My daughter just used that same 40 year old AE-1 for three years of HS photography classes and took (stole) it to college with her.

So, with the 35macroIS, AF is clairvoyant, totally mental. I always shoot in AE so the control ring on the lens has got to be ISO. I'm looking through the viewfinder using the cross keys for AF point selection and the Mfn button to turn on AF point selection. Fun! Once I dialed in some optical correction for my aging eyes I really like the viewfinder screen.