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Oct 23, 2018 13:40 as a reply to  @ post 18734949 |  #121

My thinking used to be much like yours - IS only matters on long lenses. While I still feel that is where it shines, I have started to see differences between my A7R and my 5D series cameras. The one point is IS still doesn't help if you are shooting kids - you have to have fast shutters. But aside from that, it really is a big help. I get a lot more sharp "keepers" from my Sony body with IBIS than with my 5D4 without. And this is with the same glass - 50L, 85L, 24-70, etc. So having a 50/1.2 IS and a 85/1.2 IS is VERY cool.


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Oct 23, 2018 13:46 as a reply to  @ randy98mtu's post |  #122

Even though I had my rant, it still doesn't let Canon off the hook for not trying. I should even retract some of my rant as it adds nothing to the topic. I made my choice of "inhale, focus, exhale, shoot", instead of IBIS, and others made their choice based on their own thoughts and preferences.




  
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Oct 23, 2018 14:08 |  #123

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This thread is becoming comical. Youve already in bold letters posted in about 3 different threads and i think started an exclusive thread stating how cool it is that canon lenses have a type of IS in them. Then others start saying that they like ibis and this thread turns to how thats totally not needed.


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Oct 23, 2018 15:05 |  #124

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This thread is becoming comical. Youve already in bold letters posted in about 3 different threads and i think started an exclusive thread stating how cool it is that canon lenses have a type of IS in them. Then others start saying that they like ibis and this thread turns to how thats totally not needed.

I'm not sure threads like this are as comical as they are sad. You've got people who are apparently both educated and articulate but completely blind to the fact that everyone is entitled to feel comfortable with their own solution. Every option is a good one if it gets you the pictures you want. It's ok to prefer something over another and state the why of it but telling someone else they've got it wrong because their choice is different from yours is another thing altogether.


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Oct 23, 2018 15:37 |  #125

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Focus is very slow if going from short to long (and vice versa) with this combo. Once you’re in the same range things speed up a bit. It also performed similarly when I was just pointing around the yard and focusing in bright sunlight.
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Oct 23, 2018 15:42 |  #126

By the way,

This is supposed to be the EOS R image sharing thread

We have a thread of many pages where it is fair game to discuss features that other cameras have.


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Oct 23, 2018 15:45 |  #127

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The IBIS thing really comes out of nowhere for me. I've been camera researching for a few months now, but up until then, it never entered my life as a must have camera feature. Sure, IS on a long lens makes sense. I can also read all the threads on the internet and totally agree with it being a bang-for-buck feature, but it never entered my buying decision making process. I'm not at any kind of disadvantage by not having IBIS. Alternatively, I'm not reliant on the camera to crutch through situations that may not always need a crutch. More is not always better.

I'm wondering if Canon is thinking the same way, that it's not a high return feature. If I where doing serious video with my camera, I would want to choose my gimbal separately from my camera choice.

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In the redwoods, I often skip a tripod when bushwhacking due the rugged terrain. We even take just one water bottle and find brooks along the way to save weight. So I shoot hand-held quite a bit. In that case, I found that the IS seemed helpful on a couple of wider lenses between 10mm and 70mm. So for me it's been more useful than not. The 16-35mm is the lens I take to the forest most often.

I've been looking forward to seeing other RF lens samples in this thread, then I realized that some RF lenses haven't been released yet.


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Oct 23, 2018 16:44 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #128

That “and discuss” part... ?

(The photos I’ve taken with it aren’t allowed in this section;-)a)


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Oct 23, 2018 18:53 |  #129

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Oct 23, 2018 19:17 |  #130

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In the redwoods, I often skip a tripod when bushwhacking due the rugged terrain. We even take just one water bottle and find brooks along the way to save weight. So I shoot hand-held quite a bit. In that case, I found that the IS seemed helpful on a couple of wider lenses between 10mm and 70mm. So for me it's been more useful than not. The 16-35mm is the lens I take to the forest most often.

I've been looking forward to seeing other RF lens samples in this thread, then I realized that some RF lenses haven't been released yet.

I find a tripod cumbersome most of the time.




  
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Oct 23, 2018 20:09 |  #131

This biggest negative about the R for me is that it's not a one handed camera. The ergonomics of the 5D series is a dream in comparison; that joystick was placed perfectly. No focus selection option on the R in range of the thumb to replicate that balance. I feel that fact may force me to cut my loses on the R. It takes nice pictures and has some cool options but it doesn't feel like the extension to my hand that I'm used to. Obviously it wasn't meant to compare with the 5D series, but that is what I appreciate most about my other Canons.




  
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This biggest negative about the R for me is that it's not a one handed camera. The ergonomics of the 5D series is a dream in comparison; that joystick was placed perfectly. No focus selection option on the R in range of the thumb to replicate that balance. I feel that fact may force me to cut my loses on the R. It takes nice pictures and has some cool options but it doesn't feel like the extension to my hand that I'm used to. Obviously it wasn't meant to compare with the 5D series, but that is what I appreciate most about my other Canons.

Wasn't Jared Polin or someone explaining one of the controls could be reconfigured for the focus point to get closer to the one-handed thing you are talking about? If only that extra lens ring could pull back and forth as well as the rotate !!

You mentioned previous you find tripods cumbersome. Were you using a tripod for those two river photos recently posted? The EXIF suggests 8 seconds and 15 seconds, so I'm assuming not hand held.

Were those photos worked with from RAW, or was that JPG?


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Wasn't Jared Polin or someone explaining one of the controls could be reconfigured for the focus point to get closer to the one-handed thing you are talking about?

You can use half and quarter quadrants of the screen for point selection, but it's still is a stretch for the thumb. Joystick or DPAD is a more solid control. The reduction in size created limitations in control placement.

If only that extra lens ring could pull back and forth as well as the rotate !!

That would be kind of cool in a masochistic sort of way.

You mentioned previous you find tripods cumbersome. Were you using a tripod for those two river photos recently posted? The EXIF suggests 8 seconds and 15 seconds, so I'm assuming not hand held.

Were those photos worked with from RAW, or was that JPG?

Those where on a gorilla tripod secured to a fence, and RAW. The one following is handheld.




  
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Oct 23, 2018 21:07 |  #134

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Oct 24, 2018 04:45 |  #135

Dead pixel in my EVF? But its not only in my evf its also in live view on the back screen. I can only see when when I'm trying to focus on a really low light situation. I placed the cap on the lens for ease of viewing. Small dpt next to the circle and it does not show up in my files. Should I wrap it and send it back? What is happening here?

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