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Feb 17, 2023 03:55 |  #856

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Interesting how nature adapts.
Freezing vs Dettol? Odd choice to favour freezing I'd have thought

It's indeed odd. I don't want them in my freezer.




  
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Feb 17, 2023 04:02 |  #857

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Nearly 20 years ago I was at a Gardenshow and there was a stand about pests. I asked them what was done about the cane toad and what we can do. They advised to catch them and put them in the freezer, than they will die and that it was animal cruelty to spray it with Dettol (cane toads die very quick when sprayed with Dettol). They didn't think the government was doing anything soon, maybe in 10 years time. Well it's now nearly 20 years.
I heard a story that the crows have find a way to kill them, they put them upside down and then kill and eat them, without getting poisoned.

Yes, governments have done nothing. The animals and environment don't make enough political donations to the parties.

Crows are very intelligent. Ibises too. Ibises in Queensland are reported to be catching cane toads by the legs and thrashing them around to stress them, causing them to exude their toxin. Then they either take them down to a creek and wash the poison off or wipe it off in wet grass, then swallow the cane toad whole. That's clever! Less risk for birds though. They are less susceptible to cane toad toxin (though not immune).


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Feb 17, 2023 05:52 |  #858

This is a Water Monitor [Goanna] (Varanus mertensi (external link)) at Paykarramalla in Litchfield National Park a few days ago. For some reason this species has fared relatively well during our cane toad invasion. Strange, as this is the species scientists were most worried about before the cane toads arrived, particularly because these goannas live in and around freshwater creeks--prime cane toad habitat. This one is a wild animal but appears quite used to people and we see it often.

It is a very good swimmer and uses its vertically flattened tail to propel it forward. The second image shows it puffing up its throat to look more menacing to us humans.

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Feb 17, 2023 07:21 |  #859

Lyn2011 wrote in post #19481377 (external link)
Nearly 20 years ago I was at a Gardenshow and there was a stand about pests. I asked them what was done about the cane toad and what we can do. They advised to catch them and put them in the freezer, than they will die and that it was animal cruelty to spray it with Dettol (cane toads die very quick when sprayed with Dettol). They didn't think the government was doing anything soon, maybe in 10 years time. Well it's now nearly 20 years.
I heard a story that the crows have find a way to kill them, they put them upside down and then kill and eat them, without getting poisoned.

It was mentioned in the above video to freeze them to death.
The best way to control them is the native animal fight back. The only thing they need is time.

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Interesting how nature adapts.
Freezing vs Dettol? Odd choice to favour freezing I'd have thought

So, cane toads is still a problem in Austrilia?


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Feb 17, 2023 08:36 |  #860

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This is a Water Monitor [Goanna] (Varanus mertensi (external link)) at Paykarramalla in Litchfield National Park a few days ago. For some reason this species has fared relatively well during our cane toad invasion. Strange, as this is the species scientists were most worried about before the cane toads arrived, particularly because these goannas live in and around freshwater creeks--prime cane toad habitat. This one is a wild animal but appears quite used to people and we see it often.

It is a very good swimmer and uses its vertically flattened tail to propel it forward. The second image shows it puffing up its throat to look more menacing to us humans.

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This is a Water Monitor [Goanna] (Varanus mertensi (external link)) at Paykarramalla in Litchfield National Park a few days ago. For some reason this species has fared relatively well during our cane toad invasion. Strange, as this is the species scientists were most worried about before the cane toads arrived, particularly because these goannas live in and around freshwater creeks--prime cane toad habitat. This one is a wild animal but appears quite used to people and we see it often.

It is a very good swimmer and uses its vertically flattened tail to propel it forward. The second image shows it puffing up its throat to look more menacing to us humans.
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Nice shot and info!


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Feb 17, 2023 11:37 |  #861

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Nice shot and info!

Thank you sogs.:)


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Feb 17, 2023 14:00 |  #862

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So, cane toads is still a problem in Austrilia?

They definitely are

Since their release in 1935, cane toads have expanded their range throughout northern Australia. They are now located in Queensland, Northern Territory, New South Wales and north-western parts of Western Australia.

Victoria (our southern mainland state) is concerned. They hitch rides in vehicles and Victoria has declared them a pest.



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Feb 18, 2023 20:12 as a reply to  @ post 19481304 |  #863

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Ever watch this video, Australia's Most Destructive Creature (external link)

Actually I assumed that your link went to the 1980s documentary, 'Cane Toads: an unnatural history', which she references in your linked video. As she says, it is well worth a watch, funny yet serious. You can find it on Youtube at https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=6SBLf1tsoaw (external link). It was made long before cane toads had reached the Northern Territory.


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Feb 19, 2023 04:47 |  #864

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They definitely are

Since their release in 1935, cane toads have expanded their range throughout northern Australia. They are now located in Queensland, Northern Territory, New South Wales and north-western parts of Western Australia.

Victoria (our southern mainland state) is concerned. They hitch rides in vehicles and Victoria has declared them a pest.

Sadly the cane toads are still expanding their territory.

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Actually I assumed that your link went to the 1980s documentary, 'Cane Toads: an unnatural history', which she references in your linked video. As she says, it is well worth a watch, funny yet serious. You can find it on Youtube at https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=6SBLf1tsoaw (external link). It was made long before cane toads had reached the Northern Territory.

Thank you for the video link!


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Feb 19, 2023 05:26 |  #865

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Sadly the cane toads are still expanding their territory.

Thank you for the video link!

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Feb 21, 2023 00:09 |  #866

Water Monitor--same area, different day. Not sure if it's the same animal as before, I think it was smaller.

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Feb 21, 2023 06:14 |  #867

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Water Monitor--same area, different day. Not sure if it's the same animal as before, I think it was smaller.
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Looks like it may have just swallowed something. Can you guess what that might have been? I have no idea how large these are, so small photographer perhaps? ߤʰߘ




  
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Looks like it may have just swallowed something. Can you guess what that might have been? I have no idea how large these are, so small photographer perhaps? ߤʰߘ

Haha, not quite that big Keith. They're related to Komodo dragons but these Mertens Water Monitors only grow to about a metre long and eat fish, crustaceans, insects, dead things, picnic scraps etc, but not photographers AFAIK.:)


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Feb 21, 2023 14:39 |  #869

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That's a great shot!


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That's a great shot!

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