On1 Photo RAW 2019

The release will out in November. A couple of items that caught my eye:

Layers is now integrated....no longer a separate module that has to render images for the layers. Layers now uses the raw file(s) for doing the images in each layer.

Lr migration tool: not only updates with PR catalog about image locations..etc., the migration tool will analyze the Lr image edits and generate a similar PR edit. I think this is the first time a migration tool has attempted this


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Will like feedback from users of this software. I am using LR and considering adding the On1. Is it work it?

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I am using On1 for last few years. I had my frustrations earlier, however now its pretty good. Its practical clone of LR, so migration is breeze. All controls are intuitive and you will find yourself comfortable if coming from LR. Its fast enough for 42Mega Pixel files. How good it is ? Pretty good to make my "Capture One Pro" useless. Super happy with the software. In future if they can use parallel computing to utilize all processors in my PC it will be great.

I just pre-ordered ,then downloaded the beta version of On1 2019. I have On1 2018, Capture One and Luminar plus many others with the intent as a replacement for Adobe. The three mentioned surpass Lightroom in performance and give better images with Fuji files. But if I add Photoshop to the mix and just call it Adobe then the four are all competitive.

Of the four I have preferred using On1 2018, but felt I got better results with Capture One. Luminar gave the best results, but is only a plug-in for now. Adobe has gotten behind while chasing some cloud somewhere. I've been waiting for the "Libraries" to come out for Luminar in December to see if it is any good before deciding on a "GoTo" software.

After downloading the beta for On1 2019 my decision just may be made. My results from the sliders is greatly improved over 2018, so my final result is now the best with On1 2019. Not only that, but you get HDR, Panorama, and Focus Stacking all automated in one software package. Also not to mention at a lower price than the other three!!

I have pre-ordered the 2019 On1 also. I am impressed by the list of integrated packages and the layout of the Beta version. Glad that you guys have been giving it a workout. Have you tried the noise reduction included in the One 1 yet ? How does it compare with others like LR, Topaz and DXO ?

To me noise reduction is rarely a global adjustment. PR gives you the ability to select different tone ranges (luminosity ranges) and/or color ranges within specific areas of the image. With the key areas selected, you can apply the amount of noise reduction (strength, detail protection...etc) you want for that specific area. And of course you can do all of that on separate layers.

So I think PR gives you your tools needed to select the areas that need noise reduction and the tools to deliver the noise reduction. Here is a video about 2018 that may address some of your questions: https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=AdwDh3ykXUI

Just remember that in 2019 we now have layers that integrated into the non-destructive editing. So it is much easier to use them to do local selective adjustments.

I'm still using On1 RAW since I went Fuji. It handles the Fuji files really well. It handles my Canon fine too. But I particularly like it for Fuji FAW files when it comes to shadows and color, etc. The modules like HDR and all that work really well too. I have not used Capture One so I cannot comment on that. I generally use On1 RAW for RAW manipulation and conversion. I finish off everything in Photoshop CS5.1 as a pixel editor. However, lots of things can be done auotmatically with On1 RAW and I like the export process as I can flag things, set them to be resized, output as TIF or JPG or whatever I want, etc. Pretty easy to batch organize and batch process. You can clean up most things right away. The noise reduction is pretty good and doesn't destroy everything. Sharpening works well, but I use CS5.1 for all sharpening anyways as I use different methods there (combinations of high pass filters & unsharp masks at pixel level and multi-iteration). I'm still using 2018 I think in On1 RAW, so I'll see after my updates and all and what the discount is for going to 2019. So far though, I've not wanted to move to another software suite yet.

Very best,

MCAsan wrote in post #18743621
To me noise reduction is rarely a global adjustment. PR gives you the ability to select different tone ranges (luminosity ranges) and/or color ranges within specific areas of the image. With the key areas selected, you can apply the amount of noise reduction (strength, detail protection...etc) you want for that specific area. And of course you can do all of that on separate layers.

So I think PR gives you your tools needed to select the areas that need noise reduction and the tools to deliver the noise reduction. Here is a video about 2018 that may address some of your questions: https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=AdwDh3ykXUI

Just remember that in 2019 we now have layers that integrated into the non-destructive editing. So it is much easier to use them to do local selective adjustments.

Thanks for the video link.

MalVeauX wrote in post #18743632
I'm still using On1 RAW since I went Fuji. It handles the Fuji files really well. It handles my Canon fine too. But I particularly like it for Fuji FAW files when it comes to shadows and color, etc. The modules like HDR and all that work really well too. I have not used Capture One so I cannot comment on that. I generally use On1 RAW for RAW manipulation and conversion. I finish off everything in Photoshop CS5.1 as a pixel editor. However, lots of things can be done auotmatically with On1 RAW and I like the export process as I can flag things, set them to be resized, output as TIF or JPG or whatever I want, etc. Pretty easy to batch organize and batch process. You can clean up most things right away. The noise reduction is pretty good and doesn't destroy everything. Sharpening works well, but I use CS5.1 for all sharpening anyways as I use different methods there (combinations of high pass filters & unsharp masks at pixel level and multi-iteration). I'm still using 2018 I think in On1 RAW, so I'll see after my updates and all and what the discount is for going to 2019. So far though, I've not wanted to move to another software suite yet.

Very best,

I have found OnOne's raw conversion to be average, at best, especially for Fujifilm x-trans files. Capture One and Iridient are far superior (as is SilkyPix), although I have not demo'ed OnOne 2019 - that ship sailed a while ago anyway. I think that most folks who use OnOne like the workflow - my impression after paying for the first two versions is that it is a jack of all trades, master of none. If history continues as it has in the past, if you wait to upgrade for a few months, drastically reduced prices will start bombarding you in your inbox.

kirk

Many editing apps will have Black Friday - Cyber Monday specials in a few weeks.

For those who have begun to tinker with the new On1 Product, maybe you can answer a question for me. One of my big two hangups with the older version (I purchased the 2017 version) was that while in the develop mode, I couldn't select a few images and adjust say exposure to all of them at the same time. Is it still the same way with this new version?

Also, in regards to noise reduction, the older version created some weird swirly artifacts at certain levels of noise reduction. Anyone notice any such things with 2019?

Thanks in advance

kirkt wrote in post #18743972
I have found OnOne's raw conversion to be average, at best, especially for Fujifilm x-trans files. Capture One and Iridient are far superior (as is SilkyPix), although I have not demo'ed OnOne 2019 - that ship sailed a while ago anyway. I think that most folks who use OnOne like the workflow - my impression after paying for the first two versions is that it is a jack of all trades, master of none. If history continues as it has in the past, if you wait to upgrade for a few months, drastically reduced prices will start bombarding you in your inbox.

kirk

I have ON1 2018.5 and the most recent beta of ON1 2019. I completely agree with your assessment that ON1 is a "jack of all trades and master of none". I can consistently get far superior results with DXO Photolab Elite than with the most recent version of ON1 even though ON1 has more tools at its disposal. ON1 has a number of quirky behaviors you might not even notice until you look at your results at high magnification directly compared to it's better competition.

The quirkiness can be plainly seen in the application of contrast, sharpness artifacts, transform keystone issues, noise reduction, and others. For most people these issues might be minor or not even noticeable, but they are very real and not always consistent. Having said that, ON1 improves significantly from version to version and I feel fairly confident that it will eventually be in the same league as its higher-end competitors.

I kind of gave up on On1 early in the 2018 cycle as it seems to be doing a lot of things but nothing really well.

One of the biggest issues for my workflow is a lack of support for working across multiple monitors.

Is this something that has been addressed in 2019?

DL'd a copy 2 days back and have been playing with it.

The develop did work very well. I liked the conversion and the colors seem quite nice right out of the camera. The On1 standard color was pleasing. The rest not so.

The stacking seems so-so. I'd advanced the focus about 3/8" increments and stacked 7 frames. The DOF of each frame looks like it would be sufficient, seems the software interprets this differently. Most likely needs smaller increments and more frames.

The export module I'm not liking. I'd used the same frame and on a few it didn't export the massaged file that was worked on. I'd healed some spots and those areas were not healed in the export. I like how in LR it automatically scales the watermark for the selected image size and uses the same one from the prior export. On1 defaults to the first watermark among the watermark files options.

The rename options is another that I'd like some control over. I like to have the file#, date and any appended name for the job. Not sure if there are tweaks to allow this.

I find certain areas of this take more time over LR. In due course I've been using LR since V1 up to V6 so the flow is well established. It is getting dated so this RAW converter does appeal. Overall I could use On1 with more more time, just certain features I'm not finding quick to perform and or lacking.

Have 27 days left to play and will keep at it.