Mechanical shutter or electronic

I like the silence of the electronic shutter. Is there any advantage to the mechanical shutter that I'd be missing with the electronic?

You should test the ES for your own needs, but one difference is rolling shutter with ES.

See:

https://www.imaging-resource.com …ic-shutters-pros-and-cons

and see:

https://youtu.be/CmjeC​chGRQo

Test it for your application, and see if it works for you!

Kirk

tmcman wrote in post #18733930
I like the silence of the electronic shutter. Is there any advantage to the mechanical shutter that I'd be missing with the electronic?

No Rolling shutter and you can use it with strobes are the benefits of MS.

Thanks Kirk. Very helpful.

One question comes to mind. Robert Hall said ES also causes issues when there is basic handheld camera shake. Does optical image stabilization lessen the effect of camera shake on the 1/15 of a second it takes to read lines of pixels across the sensor? Or when you are using ES do you always have to treat the camera as though you were using slow shutter speed without IS?

Thanks Osa.

tmcman wrote in post #18734639
Thanks Kirk. Very helpful.

One question comes to mind. Robert Hall said ES also causes issues when there is basic handheld camera shake. Does optical image stabilization lessen the effect of camera shake on the 1/15 of a second it takes to read lines of pixels across the sensor? Or when you are using ES do you always have to treat the camera as though you were using slow shutter speed without IS?

"ES also causes issues when there is basic handheld camera shake" not in my experience

Where is the 1/15 read time from?

Lastly, No the shutter speed if the same in that regard. Fast speed of ES is the same as fast speed of MS.

Electronic shutter is prone to showing 'lines' across the frame usually from LED or CFL bulbs, not always what you want in your composition. Although you can limit its effect by matching your shutter speed to a multiple of the frequency fo the electrify supplying the lights...

Thanks THS.

The 1/15 read time comes from the imaging-resource article linked by kirkt above.

Ah OK must read up on that as so or ask what the read speed is of the sensor in Fuji’s cameras. It takes 1/15 to expose the sensor but I can shoot at 1/32000 all the same. Mmmmmm

I use Electronic Shutter for my day to day shooting. It's dead silent. Doesn't wear out the shutter mechanism. And let's me shoot at F1.2 ISO 200 in daylight. I mainly use it for its dead silent nature. That's my biggest draw to mirrorless in general is the quiet shutter and silent shutter. But it has limitations.

The E.S. is going to have issues with fast moving subjects (it's a rolling shutter) if you're panning fast. I use it for still imaging mostly or slight movement. When you start moving or panning with a fast moving subject, the effects of the E.S. (rolling shutter) will show up as things distort due to being a rolling shutter (things will slant as you pan quickly). So keep that in mind. This issue does not show up unless you're actively panning fast with something, or something is moving super fast through you're frame and you're slightly moving with it. General walk around is not effected by this. Portrait is not effected by this. Think action, that's where you need to switch to mechanical shutter.

The E.S. doesn't sync with lighting. So when I'm using lighting, I have to use the mechanical shutter.

I also noticed the E.S. has issues under certain lighting. I was at a birthday the other day and noticed my E.S. showed very obvious banding with the fluorescent lights in the hall. The moment I switched to M.S. it wasn't an issue. But they showed up in the images just as I saw in them in the EVF when using E.S., but when using M.S. they were gone. Same shutter speeds were used. I know there is the frequency of light changing with fluorescent, but I can't explain the difference here using the same shutter speed.

Very best,

There is a bit of difference in the exposure between the MS and ES, check the histogram (and bokeh) using same settings wide open. I read this information somewhere.

Two Hot Shoes wrote in post #18735497
Ah OK must read up on that as so or ask what the read speed is of the sensor in Fuji’s cameras. It takes 1/15 to expose the sensor but I can shoot at 1/32000 all the same. Mmmmmm

I read a thread on a dpreview forum in which readers reported tests which calculated 1/13 sec. or 1/14 sec. read time. for a Fuji X-T10

In a discussion in 2014 of the XT-1, https://forums.whirlpo​ol.net.au/archive/2352​419

" an article in English by Nico Janssen, about a similar investigation in the XT100T. It's better reading this directly as Google Translate seem to jumble the text up if you follow the link to this site.

http://janssico.com …c-shutter-speed-analysis/

What comes though is that the electronic shutter speed in a CMOS sensor (really, a line scanning speed) is subservient to the sensor readout speed which is 1/10s (Luijk – based on geometry and an assumption of arrow speed) to 1/15s (Janssen – more accurate).

Look at the distortion in the tail feathers/fletch of the arrow at 1/32000s"