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Dec 23, 2019 18:59 |  #46

I got Google Drive - 1TB
M$ Drive - 2TB and I get Word for free, plus some points for prizes.
I keep backup drives in the banks vault too.




  
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Dec 23, 2019 19:07 as a reply to  @ Gomar's post |  #47

Thanks for all the different cloud locations, thinking about getting one service and trying them out.




  
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Dec 23, 2019 20:38 |  #48

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Anybody have any thoughts on Zinstall Fullback? It seems decent and although on the surface pricy ($200) for the Pro version that is for a lifetime license. The Pro version backs up everything, literally a mirror so that supposedly if you get hit by ransomware you format the drive, reinstall Windows, restore the backup and you are up and running having thumbed your nose at the ransom people. The other version is $99 but doesn’t handle the OS backup. If you back up to the cloud, as opposed to an external drive, it is $99 per year for the additional cloud access.

The company seems to have been around for about 10 years and has a respectable list of clients. The URL is
http://www.zinstall.co​m/backup (external link).

I'm not clear on how they are differentiating themselves from other solutions that are free, such as Veeam (external link) (the 800 pound backup gorilla) or Macrium Reflect. Paragon True Image is much cheaper than Zinstall and it has real-time ransomware monitoring which supposedly tested as one of the best for catching and blocking ransomware.


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Dec 23, 2019 20:47 |  #49

Bcaps wrote in post #18979753 (external link)
I'm not clear on how they are differentiating themselves from other solutions that are free, such as Veeam (external link) (the 800 pound backup gorilla) or Macrium Reflect. Paragon True Image is much cheaper than Zinstall and it has real-time ransomware monitoring which supposedly tested as one of the best for catching and blocking ransomware.

They're only free if you don't want thing like incremental backups...which you do want in case you accidentally delete something and your cloud backup updates to the current state or your drives are corrupted in such a way that is carries over to the cloud backups.

I installed trial versions of both macrium and paragon. Deleted them for various reasons...clunky, buggy, backed up to proprietary files instead of simply copying files, etc.


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Dec 23, 2019 20:58 |  #50

mystik610 wrote in post #18979755 (external link)
They're only free if you don't want thing like incremental backups...which you do want in case you accidentally delete something and your cloud backup updates to the current state or your drives are corrupted in such a way that is carries over to the cloud backups.

I installed trial versions of both macrium and paragon. Deleted them for various reasons...clunky, buggy, backed up to proprietary files instead of simply copying files, etc.


I'm using Veeam (free) and it does include incremental backups. Veeam is one of if not the most widely used backup solution for enterprise and they have a free version that is as capable as pretty much any paid solution out there. I've also used Paragon and found it quite capable.


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Dec 23, 2019 21:04 |  #51

Bcaps wrote in post #18979764 (external link)
I'm using Veeam (free) and it does include incremental backups. Veeam is one of if not the most widely used backup solution for enterprise and they have a free version that is as capable as pretty much any paid solution out there. I've also used Paragon and found it quite capable.


Really? I may have to give it a try. Everything else is a bloated mess if you don't need bootable image drives.


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Dec 23, 2019 22:56 |  #52

bobbyz wrote in post #18977580 (external link)
Does it allows me to update a single drive/folder? Then technically I bring it to work and use a faster upload speed. Backblaze doesn't seem to allow that as it is forcing me to include my C: drive in the backup. Why why.

Crashplan lets you create backup sets, which you can have run on different schedules or with different priorities. I have one set with my most important stuff and another for less important stuff. It won't backup the second set unless the first is complete. Backblaze does let you exclude any folders you like.




  
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Dec 24, 2019 17:59 |  #53

Bcaps wrote in post #18979584 (external link)
You can unselect the "C" drive by holding the Alt key and clicking on the drive letter.

Will try that. Thanks for the tip.


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Dec 24, 2019 18:03 |  #54

I played with Cloudberry after Tim's recommendation and it seems quite easy and with a good GUI. I selected a folder with my lightroom catalogs. I can select how many versions I want to keep and it made a backup on my USB. I need to play with it more. Backblaze (not the B2 version) was bare bones in comparison. I am still evaluating all these tools. In mean time got another 12TB USB drive and going to make a copy for keeping at work.


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Dec 24, 2019 23:17 |  #55

bobbyz wrote in post #18980257 (external link)
I played with Cloudberry after Tim's recommendation and it seems quite easy and with a good GUI. I selected a folder with my lightroom catalogs. I can select how many versions I want to keep and it made a backup on my USB. I need to play with it more. Backblaze (not the B2 version) was bare bones in comparison. I am still evaluating all these tools. In mean time got another 12TB USB drive and going to make a copy for keeping at work.

Cloudberry definitely has more options, but I'm not always clear what combination of retention settings I need to achieve my goals. Crashplan and Backblaze are nicer in that respect. I did notice that Backblaze recently added an option to extend your history to either one year or forever for an extra charge. That eliminates one of my major complaints about them, the 30 day history, which I always though was a little short. I still don't like that they won't back up .exe or .iso files which makes it unusable for me since I have a huge archive of downloaded programs and disk images.




  
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Dec 25, 2019 00:31 |  #56

mike_d wrote in post #18980339 (external link)
Cloudberry definitely has more options, but I'm not always clear what combination of retention settings I need to achieve my goals. Crashplan and Backblaze are nicer in that respect. I did notice that Backblaze recently added an option to extend your history to either one year or forever for an extra charge. That eliminates one of my major complaints about them, the 30 day history, which I always though was a little short. I still don't like that they won't back up .exe or .iso files which makes it unusable for me since I have a huge archive of downloaded programs and disk images.


If you want to backup .exe or .iso you can go to settings/exclusions and remove those from the excluded list and they will be backed up.


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Dec 25, 2019 00:37 |  #57

Bcaps wrote in post #18980354 (external link)
If you want to backup .exe or .iso you can go to settings/exclusions and remove those from the excluded list and they will be backed up.

Good to know. Thanks.




  
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Dec 25, 2019 06:53 |  #58

mike_d wrote in post #18980339 (external link)
Cloudberry definitely has more options, but I'm not always clear what combination of retention settings I need to achieve my goals. Crashplan and Backblaze are nicer in that respect. I did notice that Backblaze recently added an option to extend your history to either one year or forever for an extra charge. That eliminates one of my major complaints about them, the 30 day history, which I always though was a little short. I still don't like that they won't back up .exe or .iso files which makes it unusable for me since I have a huge archive of downloaded programs and disk images.

Yes complex isn't always better. In fact I've found that the more complex ones make the recovery process more complex.

Backblaze simply backsup the files you select on a set schedule. The lengthened versioning is a big plus


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Dec 25, 2019 15:44 |  #59

When I moved from Crashplan to Backblaze I also missed the indefinite versioning that Crashplan had. However, my "fix" is that I also, as part of my 3-2-1 backup strategy, basically have unlimited versions as part of my local backup with Veeam. So the only way the 30 day versioning for Backblaze would ever be an issue is if I lost both my original files and my local backup through something like theft/fire and I then needed a previous version of a file but didn't realize it for more than 30 days. That scenario is so unlikely that I would call it almost impossible. In fact, in the above scenario you would actually have 6 months and not 30 days. If Backblaze doesn't "see" your computer (it was stolen/burnt/flooded) it will retain all of your data for 6 months. So in the end the versioning isn't something that I worry about.


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