Color Science - Everyone hates Fuji lol, a test between Sony, Canon, Nikon, and Fuji

Poll on color science


Thumbnail 1:20 perception
Brand loyalty 3:20
White balance vs Color Science 14:08
Best colors 17:20

Lol I am not aggressive online Tony

It's an interesting video. I think he got a good start on the subject. Where I think he may have missed the mark, was choosing indoors instead of outdoors. Or at least including indoors with outdoors.

Every interior is different. Different paint, different light, different stain. And people have different skin color and complexion. But in many cases, gardens, parks, forests, lakes and outdoors scenes have a tighter boundary for color and look, especially to people who have seen the places.

It would be nice if he could do something similar with outdoor natural areas, then compare and see if the results are the same or vary.

Anybody think of any other questions they would interject if they were doing a poll like that?

Pass the popcorn please.
Apparently I hate myself as both Sony and Fuji user

That was interesting, particularly the miss labeled blind test. It says a lot about these things & the internet. Looking forward to the next one they do about which camera has the best 'Cinematic...'

All this stuff about color science, bokeh and 1/10 stop increments on flash output reminded me of this

http://www.andersen.sd​u.dk …EmperorsNewClot​hes_e.html

There was a portrait color blind test on dpreview a while back...if you read the comments where people took the test, people tended to prefer the Sony colors in that test too:

https://www.dpreview.c​om …n-1dx-mark-ii-vs-nikon-d5

It's pretty interesting how these underlying biases towards/against certain brands influences the perception of gear so much.

mystik610 wrote in post #18745121
There was a portrait color blind test on dpreview a while back...if you read the comments where people took the test, people tended to prefer the Sony colors in that test too:

https://www.dpreview.c​om …n-1dx-mark-ii-vs-nikon-d5

It's pretty interesting how these underlying biases towards/against certain brands influences the perception of gear so much.

The only time I had a big issue with Sony color was with my a7R. My a7S had much more pleasing colors, I have heard (and would assume) that they've only improved from there.

My guess is people latch on to that first impression (or what they've heard of it) and embed it into their minds as fact whether it's changed or not.

so is Color Science the new trendy thing to say. I dont ever remember hearing it brought up ever in the past then all of a sudden its spewing out of every reviewers mouth and poster like crazy. Is it they lost things to complain about and compare so they are just making up stuff to compare now to get views and sound like they are super awesome reviewer photographers. In the past there was comparisons of color between companies but it never seem to be the headline item and wasnt all blown up like this now. Plus anything from Tony N for me is something I will never watch or even care about his opinion.

05Xrunner wrote in post #18745252
so is Color Science the new trendy thing to say. I dont ever remember hearing it brought up ever in the past then all of a sudden its spewing out of every reviewers mouth and poster like crazy. Is it they lost things to complain about and compare so they are just making up stuff to compare now to get views and sound like they are super awesome reviewer photographers. In the past there was comparisons of color between companies but it never seem to be the headline item and wasnt all blown up like this now. Plus anything from Tony N for me is something I will never watch or even care about his opinion.

Strange conclusion given that he flat out said the same things in the video and that he too thinks the issue is way over blown and talked about... One could argue the whole point of his video was to put the concerns over "color science" to bed...

I dont watch anything he puts out so didnt know what all he said. I am just talking in general over the past year maybe less that seems to be the trendy thing to bring up is the term color science.

05Xrunner wrote in post #18745373
I dont watch anything he puts out so didnt know what all he said. I am just talking in general over the past year maybe less that seems to be the trendy thing to bring up is the term color science.

Honestly, it was mostly used as a point to bash Sony cameras for supposedly having bad colors. This is why its such a prevalent thing now and it wasn't a few years back.

It's trendy because people are moving away from Canon (or have been), and then they get all caught up because their work flow is not all messed up. It's a huge deal to some... particularly those that shoot multiple brands of cameras. It's not that hard of a fix if you use something like Lightroom to manage your images. You can have a common look you strive for then automatically have the colors corrected on import.

But has been a knock going around more as Canon shooters are used to the extra Red in the Canon color profile, and yellows in the Nikons, and so on. It's like going between Agfa film and Kodak film in the past. They just interpret colors differently - not right nor wrong.

It's what was cool about the film days... didn't matter what body you put the film in... Kadochrome looked like Kodachrome - nikon, minolta, olympus, canon... they all looked really close. Then digital happened, and shops had to standardize on a brand because back in the day correcting color took more work.

... and for the most part color science has been a way from Canon die hards to try to knock other brands of cameras. With Canon loosing their innovative mojo.... its one of the things people tried to make a critical differentiator. Unfortunately it just usually exposed their lack of experience. I shoot both Canon and Sony - Lightroom takes care of the differences for me. Really simple.

05Xrunner wrote in post #18745252
so is Color Science the new trendy thing to say. I dont ever remember hearing it brought up ever in the past then all of a sudden its spewing out of every reviewers mouth and poster like crazy. Is it they lost things to complain about and compare so they are just making up stuff to compare now to get views and sound like they are super awesome reviewer photographers. In the past there was comparisons of color between companies but it never seem to be the headline item and wasnt all blown up like this now. Plus anything from Tony N for me is something I will never watch or even care about his opinion.

Didn't read Alan's post on the Fuji forum. It is all the in the render.