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Dec 18, 2018 09:16 |  #1

Downloaded Luminar 3 this morning and installed it and all the free presets/looks. To me the DAM is very hit and miss. The filmstrip not being resizable is not good, no keywords (I don't use them) is not good, The filmstrip of images and the panel of presets should be swappable. The import capability is very lame without nearly enough tokens/variables available to let you setup a routine that can automatically create and name destination folders and rename imported images. So the DAM right now might be OK for folks just starting with using a DAM.

Of course Luminar makes a good plugin to Lr, Ps, and other apps and does provide some very nice effects filters.




  
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Dec 18, 2018 09:28 |  #2

I've been using LR since day 1 of beta, so a long time.
The only thing I've ever done that you mention is add key words and resize the filmstrip. Never rename or import from a card so it's all perspective I guess.


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Dec 19, 2018 06:21 |  #3

I have really been looking forward to this update, Luminar was only a Plug-in without the Libraries. So I downloaded and installed Luminar3 last night only to learn it is not yet compatible with my new Fuji XT-3 files. I have had that camera in my hands since September the release date. This is December, that's 4 months and they come out with a "NEW" version that is not compatible!!!!

Just how long after purchasing a new camera do you go unable to post process??!!


FUJI XT-2 & FUJI XT-3 ->
12mm Roki, 16 f1.4, 35 f1.4, 56 f1.2, 80 Macro
10-24, 18-55, 55-200, 100-400

  
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Dec 19, 2018 06:28 |  #4

I don't usually rename original files at all. I also only use a simple Year/date folder structure. So instead I use keywords and IPTC Scene codes, as well as geolocation data to manage all of my images. I think the nature of what you shoot is important though. If you are a pro mostly shooting once or only occasionally for a variety of different individual clients, then DAM is pretty easy, since you can use a client centered folder structure. In my case where I'm shooting aircraft mostly at airshows it gets complicated real fast. There become a large number of different ways I'm going to need to sort the subjects of the images. This is when a database based system becomes ideal. Adobe have actually incorporated Lr style smart collections in Bridge. Unfortunately when you point a Bridge Smart Collection at a set of images it has to open every image in that folder tree to read the required EXIF/IPTC data to see if the image should be included in the collection. That is not going to be very quick when I have 67353 master photos in my Lr catalogue. I tried it before, when my catalogue was at least 10K images smaller, and it pretty much just kept reading the disk looking for matches.

So I'm guessing the DAM feature is going to be a non starter for me at the moment, even if there were an easy way to transfer from Lr to Luminar with libraries. Can it read Adobe .xmp files, and import the EXIF/IPTC data from those? I already write those so that Bridge can see the data too.

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Dec 22, 2018 14:08 |  #5

After trying the DAM and seeing them slide the 2019 roadmap by 6 months, I have deleted all their software. Your milage may vary.




  
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Dec 22, 2018 14:57 |  #6

Lumens wrote in post #18773930 (external link)
I have really been looking forward to this update, Luminar was only a Plug-in without the Libraries. So I downloaded and installed Luminar3 last night only to learn it is not yet compatible with my new Fuji XT-3 files. I have had that camera in my hands since September the release date. This is December, that's 4 months and they come out with a "NEW" version that is not compatible!!!!

Just how long after purchasing a new camera do you go unable to post process??!!

I have been looking for a resolution to an Adobe Alternative (Well sort of). I wanted to move away from Lightroom because it CANNOT properly render Fuji Raw files. They come out under exposed and produce worms under certain processing methods. I have been evaluating alternatives and with Luminar not compatible with my XT-3 files, I was stuck. But I came up with a solution I decided to use WDWB (What Does What Best). It's a Tiff based system -> Here's the workflow:

Capture One Pro for Fuji:
1. Render and cull in Capture One (Renders Fuji Fuji files correctly).
2. Apply camera profile if desired. (Camera Profiles are available since the recent release)
3. Apply any color changes if desired. (C1 has the best color management in the Industry IMHO)
4. Export to full size Tiff Profoto RGB (16 bit) in new location (RawTiff folder)

Luminar:
4. Import from new location & Develop/Process the Tiff images. (LM has the best and Easiest to use tools/filters in the Industry and the New DAM is awesome for this IMHO)
5. Export to full size Tiff Profoto RGB (16 bit) in new location (Tiff Folder)

Lightroom:
6. Import Tiffs from new location and apply Keywords
7. Add small touch up adjustments if desired
8. Make further changes as needed
-> Neither C1 nor LM have HDR or Panorams functionality while LR does.
-> Also Round Trip to PS for Image Manipulation if desired)
9. LR provides best distribution options (IMHO) -> Export to JPEG in desired settings for media, Slide Show, Book, or Web Page.

The "Tiff" folder of final Tiffs is Synced to a second "backup" external disk. I just tested this system out and find it REALLY works well. It's a matter of we ALL just need to find a system that fits our style.


FUJI XT-2 & FUJI XT-3 ->
12mm Roki, 16 f1.4, 35 f1.4, 56 f1.2, 80 Macro
10-24, 18-55, 55-200, 100-400

  
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