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Hmm. Have we seen the end of EF/EF-S lenses?

 
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Jan 04, 2019 13:37 |  #1

Interesting article. Looks as if Canon is moving resources to deliver RF lenses at least for the remainder of 2019. It mirrorless takes off, could we have seen the end of the EF lens line?
https://petapixel.com …ely-on-rf-in-2019-report/ (external link)


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Jan 04, 2019 13:40 |  #2

This is also from the article and video:

"Burnhill does note that Canon isn’t abandoning its EF lenses, but is instead just ignoring it for a year to focus entirely on mirrorless. There’s still an internal lens roadmap for upcoming EF lenses that will be announced after 2019."

Ultimately consumer demand will decide so it is a question mark more than anything else right now I guess.


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Jan 04, 2019 13:42 |  #3

Yes, WHEN mirrorless takes off I believe we will see EF & EF-S mounts becoming an unsupported thing of the past. Especially when one considers the benefits of RF mounts with the R mirrorless.

It's all pretty exciting but I need to see another couple iterations of Canon mirrorless and RF lenses before I jump into their mirrorless world. I was considering flipping to Fujifilm mirrorless, but now I am patiently waiting to see what else Canon releases.


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Jan 04, 2019 14:37 |  #4

It does look as if Canon is taking the RF mount much more seriously than the they did the M mount. They have what, 8 M mount lenses total after 7 years?


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Jan 04, 2019 14:57 |  #5

It seems that Canon put quite some development into the new RF lenses (https://www.lensrental​s.com …-the-canon-rf-50mm-f1-2l/ (external link)) and don't just adjust EF lenses to the new format. Quite impressive and also helps to explain why they have to focus.


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Jan 04, 2019 22:04 |  #6

"Burnhill does note that Canon isn’t abandoning its EF lenses, but is instead just ignoring it for a year to focus entirely on mirrorless. There’s still an internal lens roadmap for upcoming EF lenses that will be announced after 2019."

Translation: "in a year or so our complete migration to mirrorless will be obvious, accepted and even applauded by most current Canon DSLR owners. those angered by our abandonment of the DSLR can switch to Nikon as they struggle to stay afloat"


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Jan 04, 2019 22:11 |  #7

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Yes, WHEN mirrorless takes off I believe we will see EF & EF-S mounts becoming an unsupported thing of the past. Especially when one considers the benefits of RF mounts with the R mirrorless.

It's all pretty exciting but I need to see another couple iterations of Canon mirrorless and RF lenses before I jump into their mirrorless world. I was considering flipping to Fujifilm mirrorless, but now I am patiently waiting to see what else Canon releases.


exactly canon's plan to stop the bleeding


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Jan 04, 2019 22:24 |  #8

From canon rumors:

Rumoured RF lenses for 2019:
•RF 16-35mm f/2.8L (or similar)
•RF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS (or similar)
•RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS (or similar)
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•RF 85mm f/1.8 IS STM
•RF Macro lens
•RF non-L kit lens

with these, all I need is the body


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Jan 04, 2019 23:10 |  #9

i have a hard time imagining all their next body releases being RF only though...i mean, they have to do a lot more improvement on FPS if they are going to release a 1DXII replacement in a RF mount

so i don't think they are necessarily done...it's just that they have most all bases already covered with something in EF already


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Jan 04, 2019 23:36 as a reply to  @ DreDaze's post |  #10

I sure wouldn't buy a body that doesn't use Canon's best lenses. I think you'll see a 1dxII mirrorless successor at the 2020 Olympics as well as a couple of white primes (possibly DO) in RF mount.


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Jan 05, 2019 00:55 |  #11

ed rader wrote in post #18784688 (external link)
"...Translation: "in a year or so our complete migration to mirrorless will be obvious, accepted and even applauded by most current Canon DSLR owners. those angered by our abandonment of the DSLR can switch to Nikon as they struggle to stay afloat"

That's kind of what I was thinking. A year is a long time. With DSLR sales continuing their slide, if mirrorless takes off,there is another announcement in 2020 stating that Canon is taking a year off of EF lens development to concentrate on RF lenses. :):)


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could we have seen the end of the EF lens line?
https://petapixel.com …ely-on-rf-in-2019-report/ (external link)

Only if Canon is stupid enough to think that all the EOS mount dSLRs and film SLRs ever sold will suddenly result in no additional EF mount lenses sold because EOS mount camera owners lose all desire to buy anything but used lenses.

...or the buying public actually does something unexpected like only choosing to buy used lenses to fit their EF mount cameras.


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Jan 05, 2019 03:42 |  #13

ed rader wrote in post #18784733 (external link)
I sure wouldn't buy a body that doesn't use Canon's best lenses. I think you'll see a 1dxII mirrorless successor at the 2020 Olympics as well as a couple of white primes (possibly DO) in RF mount.

i don't use canons best lenses now so i'd be fine with a body that doesn't support them...i want a new body that supports the lenses i've already invested in...i just can't imagine canon not introducing another EF mount camera in the next year...they are due for so many cameras...a new 7D, a new 80D succesor, i thought mirrorless would mean better FPS, the fact that their first real mirrorless is at 5.5 is so weak...my 40D that collects dust does better than that...i think they'll come out with a 90D, and a 7DIII in the next year, and i don't think they'll be mirrorless mounts

2020 is a long ways away to wait for a camera that can do better fps than my 12 year old camera


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Jan 05, 2019 07:03 |  #14

There will be at least one DSLR announced in 2019, possibly 2. Those were already in R&D years earlier, and they aren't going to hold off the announcements just because a few members think DSLRs are dead. The only announcement was about EF lenses, not DSLRs. It makes sense, Canon has a WIDE array of lenses, and 3rd party glass is now so good, it is hard to find a new EF lens design that would be profitable.

This EF slowdown has already happened in fact, this is why Canon keeps coming out with MKII and MKIII of lenses, or one stop slower versions of older faster versions. There have been very few new EF designs in the past years, mostly redesigns of the same lenses, and some of those were lackluster releases at best. Had nothing to do with mirrorless cameras... all Canon is doing is moving those engineering resources to look at RF lenses.

If a = b, and b != c, then a cannot equal c, but that is what is happening here, many keep using the transitive property and saying a = c.

a = "Canon is taking 2019 to concentrate on RF lenses"
b = "Mirrorless development is in full swing"
c = "no DSLR announcements ever again"

As we approach 2021 to 2022, then you will see more from Canon, and the consumer market, moving to all mirrorless/RF, and then we see the end of DSLRs.


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Jan 05, 2019 07:28 |  #15

ed rader wrote in post #18784733 (external link)
I sure wouldn't buy a body that doesn't use Canon's best lenses. .

Canon's best lenses cost over $10,000.
I don't use those lenses because I can't afford them. So it doesn't matter if the body I use works with Canon's best lenses or not.
I think that the vast majority of interchangeable lens camera buyers are in the same position when it comes to using Canon's best lenses - they are way out of reach.


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