CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18790881
I still don't buy it. (I'm quoting you, not because I disagree with you, but because it's easier than delving into John's argument, and you are plainly stating what one must do to get close to an even playing feild)
I REALLY don't buy it. Having shot the two side by side, and having opted for the 5D4 and cropping in many situations, real world ones, out in the desert etc,. one would have to do handstands and flips to get the 7D2 to be on par with the 5D4.
Frankly, when I'm shooting I don't have time for flips and handstands, so the 5D4 just wins out.
Why would anyone work to make their 5D4 less capable to get their 7D2 on an even playing field, when they can simply instead work to take advantage of the 5D4..
I agree with you. There are only ever limited situations where you would have both showing about the same level of noise for the same framing and DOF, but in every other situation where you have room to spare with shutter or focal length, you are going to go with the better camera.
I have both the 7D2 and 5D4, and I RARELY use the 7D2 any longer. If I am focal length challenged, and can use the 1.4x, then I do on the 5D4. Sure, due to the 1 stop slower shutter or more ISO, the noise levels get close to the 7D2, but it is still better at the pixel level, so again, I will reach for the better camera every...single...time.
I keep the 7D2 because a) I need a backup sports camera and b) I need 10fps in limited situations shooting sports. If the 5D4 had 10fps, the 7D2 would go. Great camera, I love it, but there is absolutely no reason to use it with all the other gear I have from different lenses, different teleconverters, and even an APS C M50 that will AF up to f11 with a 2x on the 100-400, which the 7D2 won't do. Heck, I can put the 2xIII on the Sigma and have 1200mm on the M50 with autofocus, so again, the 7D2 doesn't bring much to the table for what I shoot any longer.