Hmm. Have we seen the end of EF/EF-S lenses?

f8andBeThere wrote in post #18785046
All of this makes me think it's best not to invest in any new EF lenses in the near future, at least until I can figure out what the future of Canon's DSLRs are vs. development of mirrorless.
Can't be too good for their overall lens-sales stats in 2019. Unless they come out with a killer new R-mount camera and can ramp up R-mount lens production fast enough.

Hopefully, they have something like a 72 or 80MP R in the pipeline for about US $3500, hence all these lenses that are sharp in the corners of FF. That might be what makes me bite.

Canon will still sell EF lenses, of course but not develop new ones, and at some point I believe canon mirrorless will no longer support EF. soooo, my plan for the future is no more EF lenses. when I get the replacement for my 5d4, and I am in no hurry, I will replace my EF lenses with RF.

ed rader wrote in post #18785079
Canon's best lenses = RF mount

For fast short focal length primes and zooms, it seems silly to continue designing for EF, for engineering reasons. For long lenses that don't benefit from mirror-less design freedom, they might design for the EF mount if there is still the demand of EF body users. I assume that there will be a significant resistance to moving to a video viewfinder for many die-hards who rely on real-time viewfinders for tracking fast action and anticipation.

ed rader wrote in post #18785080
we are talking about lenses, not cameras. but now that you mention I think canon will make no more new FF DSLRs. i.e., the 5dV will be mirrorless.

1Dx3 and 7D3 I would expect as DSLR, and the other lines might go all mirrorless, with better-built M cameras replacing all other APS-C Canon DSLRs.

John Sheehy wrote in post #18785088
For fast short focal length primes and zooms, it seems silly to continue designing for EF, for engineering reasons. For long lenses that don't benefit from mirror-less design freedom, they might design for the EF mount if there is still the demand of EF body users. I assume that there will be a significant resistance to moving to a video viewfinder for many die-hards who rely on real-time viewfinders for tracking fast action and anticipation.

I remember when the iPhone began its domination of the cell phone market and blackberry was being crushed many including my wife and one of my best friends swore they would never use a phone with a touch screen.

they all use touchscreens now and I never hear them complain. i'm not even sure you can get a phone with buttons anymore. maybe they still make flip phones with huge glowing button for if you've fallen and cant get up I don't know .

that's possible. I would be hardpressed to pay that much for a camera that didn't use RF lenses but maybe others wouldn't. I know canon is working on RF mount white lenses which leads me to believe they are also working on the bodies.

will canon be showcasing "new" DSLRs at the Tokyo Olympics next year? I would view that as a major fail

Only posting to note that this article is fear mongering very old news.
The article is referencing a quote from September 2018, as it's main source of info. We had lengthy discussions and threads already about this same topic back when the quote occurred. Nothing new in this months late article to me eyes.


Nothing wrong with posting this here of course, not saying that, just pointing out how lame Petapixel is for rehashing the same doom and gloom months later. It's click bait, and how they generate traffic.
If we had the "merge" feature with AMASS software, this thread would be tagged onto the old one.

Some of the older threads on the subject for those interested in when this went around the last few times;

Dedicated threads;
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1502302
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1501986

And older discussions took place in the "R" and "RF" long thread;
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1499941

You make an excellent point, TeamSpeed.

I think it's safe to say that many people here on this forum are more interested in photography gear than they are in the photos themselves. I think that's really weird and messed up.

If someone thinks that they need to use the latest and greatest gear in order to "keep up with the competition", they are just wrong.

ed rader wrote in post #18785079
Canon's best lenses = RF mount

Flat out wrong. Stop disseminating incorrect information. No RF lenses are essentially better than the version 3 600mm f4 and 400mm f2.8 lenses. They may be more suitable for given purposes, but they are not essentially better.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18785130
You make an excellent point, TeamSpeed.

I think it's safe to say that many people here on this forum are more interested in photography gear than they are in the photos themselves. I think that's really weird and messed up.

If someone thinks that they need to use the latest and greatest gear in order to "keep up with the competition", they are just wrong.

i think Canon and Nikon need to "keep up with the competition". a failure to innovate will kill you. ask apple.

I hear you, Jake. However, sometimes rehashing something in a new thread will elicit heated, strongly opinionated responses that may not get posted to older threads.

As a POTN member, I am always most interested in the threads that get very strong, heated, and opposing responses. That's what makes POTN come alive for me. Merging threads, or closing threads and referring participants to a different thread, often kills the heated, controversial tone that I enjoy so much.

Hence, I am glad that this topic was re-posted on Petapixel and subsequently re-posted here.

ed rader wrote in post #18785135
i think Canon and Nikon need to "keep up with the competition". a failure to innovate will kill you. ask apple.

Or ask Porsche. They tried hard to innovate but they were forced by their customers to continue putting an engine in the most unsuitable location of a car.

ed rader wrote in post #18785135
i think Canon and Nikon need to "keep up with the competition". a failure to innovate will kill you. ask apple.

I was not talking about camera manufacturers keeping up with other camera manufacturers.

I was talking about photographers who errantly think that they need the latest and greatest gear to keep up with other photographers in their chosen genre.

ed rader wrote in post #18785082
Canon will still sell EF lenses, of course but not develop new ones, and at some point I believe canon mirrorless will no longer support EF. soooo, my plan for the future is no more EF lenses. when I get the replacement for my 5d4, and I am in no hurry, I will replace my EF lenses with RF.

Given that adapters exist now, I don't see Canon ever stopping support for Ef lenses. It's just too easy.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18785134
Flat out wrong. Stop disseminating incorrect information. No RF lenses are essentially better than the version 3 600mm f4 and 400mm f2.8 lenses. They may be more suitable for given purposes, but they are not essentially better.

they are better. bigger mount. maybe read some reviews?