Some of my Daughter at her 7th grade BB game.

Some of my Daughter at her 7th grade BB game.

Nice job, do you have the 85mm 1.8 in your signature? Shooting BB indoors is hard any sports indoor is hard. You can stop to 2.0 or 2.2 and get the iso down to 1600 and def get some of the grain out of the photos. Keep up the good work!

I'd agree with Alex on using the 85. On the 7D it would give a field of view much like what I get with a 1D4 and 100mm. Personally, I think its a sweet spot for shooting action from the baseline. Good work and I'd bet you could reduce some additional grain in post by using moderate noise reduction in ACR prior to sharpening. Keep it up!

thanks guys I do have the 85 I may have to give that a try next game.

Good job!

One thing to remember is that it is easier to clean up noise than it is blur. I personally think the slowest shutter speed for BB is 1/800th, and if at all possible, get the speed up over 1/1000th. Yes you will push the ISO up a bit, but there are tools and settings that will make this easier.

f2.8 and ISO 6400 would allow more latitude with shutter speeds....

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18787101
Good job!

One thing to remember is that it is easier to clean up noise than it is blur. I personally think the slowest shutter speed for BB is 1/800th, and if at all possible, get the speed up over 1/1000th. Yes you will push the ISO up a bit, but there are tools and settings that will make this easier.

f2.8 and ISO 6400 would allow more latitude with shutter speeds....

Well you are certainly the master when it comes to getting super clean images at very high ISO. Been using LR (5) for three years now and I can say that I have gotten better at post processing but still have a long ways to go. Any presets for LR worth exploring?

I don't use LR because I don't like having to repay over and over for the same functionality I would use year after year, but have to because new cameras came out and the software doesn't "support it". Raw files don't change that often in their formats.

I wrote up this thread a long time ago regarding the 7D, and much of that is still useful info if one wanted to wade through the details from others and myself.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1079217

I have recently tried a few basketball photos and found them tricky to get enough shutter speed to really freeze things. I found 1/500-1/640 not quite fast enough for my liking.

In pro sports, even 1/2000th isn't fast enough to completely stop the action.

Not so much an issue in middle and high school sports though, most of the time.

I can certainly believe that! Right now I have zero PP skills so I would definitely have to work on that before I can shoot at those shutter speeds and the ISO levels that accompany them!

FAIR CHASE wrote in post #18787165
Well you are certainly the master when it comes to getting super clean images at very high ISO. Been using LR (5) for three years now and I can say that I have gotten better at post processing but still have a long ways to go. Any presets for LR worth exploring?

Would you believe these days with the 5D4, I actually don't do too much specialized NR? I actually shoot in-camera JPEG and then run a quick "cleanup" action in photoshop that does steps of Noiseware NR, contrast, etc. I don't do anything at the color channel level, nothing in DPP on the raw files, etc like I did pre-7D2 and pre-5D4.

The 7D2 isn't getting better with age, but the 5D4 seems to do better out of camera this year vs last year. The 7D2 is still a bit noisy at 1+ stops under the 5D4 settings. Obviously lighting is everything, so shots right at the basket are best as the venue has their lights aimed right dead center of the court, basket to basket.

The 7D requires a bit of tender lovin' care however to get the best out of it. That means making sure the raw is set up properly with settings before it exports to JPEG, then the right set of steps and tools on that JPEG. I don't miss those days. If Donald wanted to share the raw file of one of his daughter's shots, I could see how I do with it for him and share the steps.

5D4 OOC JPG with quick cleanup action, larger version here:

One from my only attempt at basketball

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How about the high ISO noise reduction settings on the 7D MkII? I have mine set to standard. Any advantage in changing it to High?

duckster wrote in post #18788227
How about the high ISO noise reduction settings on the 7D MkII? I have mine set to standard. Any advantage in changing it to High?

No, there are better tools available to clean up excessive noise past the standard setting.

Pretty sure high iso noise reduction is only applied to jpegs out of camera