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Jan 28, 2019 16:43 |  #1

Anyone tried the trial?


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Jan 28, 2019 17:25 |  #2

Yeah, I'll pass. Taking chunks of 10 bytes of compressed JPEG where all the rgb values are the same because of saving the JPEG at quality level 5 and guessing at the missing colors isn't going to yield a better raw. No matter how much the machine AI tries to guess at the missing color graduations and fill them in... And what would the purpose be? Just convert the JPG to TIFF or DNG... Should be interesting to see what kinds of DR headroom we get back and new color fidelity not in the JPEG, can't wait to see the assessments!


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Jan 28, 2019 22:41 |  #3

Why?

I can see one reason - old low res photos, or photos that were taken before one got a digital camera that output raw (so you only have the .jpeg). IDK about Topaz, but AI could be a decent way of interpolating to make the image look better on a high res monitor of in a print. Whether it is actually better than other methods out there, I have no idea. Whether it is worth trying to get back to a 'raw' file, I seriously doubt.

Most of the .jpeg only photos I have are of my kids when they were babies, and they are ugly enough in low res, I don't need them enhancing. ;-)a


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Jan 29, 2019 06:56 |  #4

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Why?

I can see one reason - old low res photos, or photos that were taken before one got a digital camera that output raw (so you only have the .jpeg). IDK about Topaz, but AI could be a decent way of interpolating to make the image look better on a high res monitor of in a print. Whether it is actually better than other methods out there, I have no idea. Whether it is worth trying to get back to a 'raw' file, I seriously doubt.

Most of the .jpeg only photos I have are of my kids when they were babies, and they are ugly enough in low res, I don't need them enhancing. ;-)a

But there are already JPG tools that can fill in what is considered lost data, there is no need to take an inferior source file and convert it to a less inferior source file while guessing at missing dynamic range and color. One could do that with a JPG into a lossless image structure, and then output the file as TIFF or DNG. I see no reason to convert to raw, at that point what gain is there really over a TIFF or DNG?

I don't so much question the usefulness of the tech, I question why a raw file? I fail to see what that provides over some other lossless image file format.

That would be like technology that takes a printed image and creates a negative using AI to try to fill in the gaps while advertising how much better it is to have that negative, instead of it just creating a digital image file that can be printed again.


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Jan 29, 2019 08:11 |  #5

A pointless app.


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Jan 29, 2019 08:41 |  #6
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JPEG to RAW
Topaz have just announced a new software package that is aimed at making improving the quality of JPEG files.

Key features are listed as:

Recover shadow / highlight detail and expand dynamic range
Expand bit depth from 8-bit to 16-bit, color space from sRGB to ProPhoto
Remove JPEG compression artifacts
Fix some common issues caused by small sensors or low camera quality, like noise / chromatic aberration
Convert the actual file format to DNG (or TIFF)




  
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Jan 29, 2019 08:42 |  #7

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Yeah, I'll pass.

Me, too. Had a look at it. Total crap. Doesn't perform as promised. Noise, shadows, etc. And I can do those in PS... better. The only thing it really seems to end up doing is focus (sharpness) and I can do that with a heck of a lot of other tools, some of them free. A huge waste of money.

Instead of spending their time on AI stuff that doesn't work, they should spend some time updating their old presets....some of which have not been updated in years and years.

Topaz Labs, once a shining star, has been dulled and taken some wrong turns the last couple of years. They need to re-focus and improve on what they once were.


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Jan 29, 2019 17:29 |  #8

With the app, I can process 1000s of images from the 90s and early 2000s without having to touch an Adobe app. And all with a free trial. Works for me.




  
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Jan 30, 2019 09:11 |  #9

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With the app, I can process 1000s of images from the 90s and early 2000s without having to touch an Adobe app. And all with a free trial. Works for me.

Another Adobe fan, huh? ;-)a


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