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Feb 12, 2019 06:52 |  #61

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Am I the only one who fundamentally dislikes the idea of buying and filling up my data storage devices with 50Gbytes per image at >10fps, and managing backing up the data (and refreshing backups whenever storage media displaces the old technology media) ?!
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Feb 12, 2019 07:01 |  #62

Like we run 10+fps and keep ALL images... Burst rates exist so you can keep 1 or 2 of the best of the sequence, and then you throw the remainder out. ;) If you don't shoot bursts now, you won't be required to later, and thus won't have to worry about all the extra storage and backup capabilities later. :)

What is really going to happen in the future is that bursts will really just be video feeds, and then you just pull the frame out you want to keep. As we approach 8K video at 30-60fps, bursts won't be performed as they are today, cameras will just go to video in fast burst rate mode, and give you the ability to look frame by frame through the sequence.


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Feb 12, 2019 07:03 |  #63

On topic of the release 85 1.2 Defocus smoothing... Wow, probably the best 85 on the planet


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Feb 12, 2019 07:06 |  #64

Because we all have issues with the OOF areas now on the 85L?


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Feb 12, 2019 07:10 |  #65

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18809588 (external link)
Because we all have issues with the OOF areas now on the 85L?

They want that extra smooth, sort of like Fuji and the 56 1.2

Nokishita put up that tweet


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Feb 12, 2019 07:20 |  #66

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So a 6D2 remade as a mirrorless able to use RF lenses...

I wouldn't put it past Canon to have slightly more noise than the 6D2, just like the R is noisier than the 5D4.




  
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Feb 12, 2019 07:20 |  #67

I guess we can see back to back comparisons between the non DS vs DS and the price delta to determine the worth and demand of the lens. Should be interesting once those comparisons are shown.


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Feb 12, 2019 07:33 |  #68

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feels like the end of APS-C is around the corner if this is priced right.

APS-C is not just a cheaper, smaller camera format for those on a tight budget. My 7D2 weighs more than my 6D, and only cost $100 less. APS-C is where pixel density is generally found for systems that use the same lenses on FF and APS-C.

FF cameras do not give give better performance above base ISO unless you also use glass with a larger entrance pupil, with more weight, and a higher price tag, for the same FOV. It is only at base ISO when light is ample for stability that a larger sensor automatically collects more light with any arbitrary entrance pupil.




  
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Feb 12, 2019 07:45 |  #69

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They’re doing DR tests at base ISOs though: not maximum ISO of camera model.

DR is pretty meaningless at high ISOs. You can always get more "DR" by just using a lower ISO setting, with little or no noise penalty. Maybe you are using "DR" as a proxy for something other than DR? DR has nothing to do with noise vs a given input signal. It is the stops between highlight clipping and the lowest signal that is deemed "usable" by the (arbitrary) DR standard, or between highlight clipping the RAW level that is equal to the standard deviation of blackframe noise.

Performance *at* an actual ISO exposure index is what is represented by DPR's studio comparison tool (visually), or the trendlines in DxO's DR (but *NOT* its actual data points, which measure DR).




  
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Feb 12, 2019 14:05 |  #70

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18809584 (external link)
Like we run 10+fps and keep ALL images... Burst rates exist so you can keep 1 or 2 of the best of the sequence, and then you throw the remainder out. ;) If you don't shoot bursts now, you won't be required to later, and thus won't have to worry about all the extra storage and backup capabilities later. :)

What is really going to happen in the future is that bursts will really just be video feeds, and then you just pull the frame out you want to keep. As we approach 8K video at 30-60fps, bursts won't be performed as they are today, cameras will just go to video in fast burst rate mode, and give you the ability to look frame by frame through the sequence.

i hope they let you shoot video through the viewfinder in the future


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Feb 12, 2019 20:34 |  #71

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18809584 (external link)
Like we run 10+fps and keep ALL images... Burst rates exist so you can keep 1 or 2 of the best of the sequence, and then you throw the remainder out. ;) If you don't shoot bursts now, you won't be required to later, and thus won't have to worry about all the extra storage and backup capabilities later. :)

What is really going to happen in the future is that bursts will really just be video feeds, and then you just pull the frame out you want to keep. As we approach 8K video at 30-60fps, bursts won't be performed as they are today, cameras will just go to video in fast burst rate mode, and give you the ability to look frame by frame through the sequence.

I've already don't that with 4k video - which at 3840 pixels wide by 2160 pixels high, for a total pixel count of 8294000, or 8.3MP. The same as the Mk IIn but you can get 24 and 30 frames per second. Color depth on a Sony is good, but not great. I have a client that is a railway and we grabbed some images for their annual report that were run by videos. Worked just fine.




  
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Feb 13, 2019 16:04 |  #72

Canon EOS RP body price confirmed at $1299 USD, and we’re very happy about it
By Canon Rumors | February 13, 2019 | Canon DSLR Rumors

We have finally confirmed that the Canon EOS RP body is going to cost $1299 when it launches tonight and will come in 3 kits in the USA.

Canon EOS RP USA kits available at launch:

Canon EOS RP body w/EG-E1 Extension Grip & Canon Mount Adapter $1299

Canon EOS RP w/EF 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, EG-E1 Extension Grip & Canon Mount Adapter $1699

Canon EOS RP w/RF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM, EG-E1 Extension Grip & Canon Mount Adapter $2199

We’re not sure if the EG-E1 extension grip and included Canon Mount Adapter will be a limited time preorder deal or not. However, if you have an interest in the EOS RP, get ready to preorder it tonight to take advantage of this amazing aggressive pricing.

More: https://www.canonrumor​s.com …were-very-happy-about-it/ (external link)


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Feb 13, 2019 17:08 |  #73

I am sure the early EOS R adopters will be pleased they spent $800 more for what seems to be some marginally superior functions?


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Feb 13, 2019 18:03 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #74

Yeah, that's gonna sting a little bit.

Pissing off early adapters aside, 1000 dollars msrp difference makes me think they have not seen the sales they expected and need to adjust it down. Even at $1999 the original would have a hard time competing, I think.


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Feb 13, 2019 18:27 |  #75

I am so stoked for this camera. I think it will be the success Canon is looking for!




  
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