6D vs 6Dii vs 5Diii

I'm torn. I want to get back into photography again to get back into a hobby.

I've owned my 5Dc + Sigma 50/1.4 DG since ~2008. In 2014, I bought a 6D for a month long trip to Italy and Spain with a Sigma 35 Art and owned it for about a year. I loved that camera, it's IQ was amazing with the 35 and the Wifi was fun to have to link over to my iPad mini to do some quick edits and post on FB and Instagram to keep family updated on the travel.

I knew though that with a pregnant wife at the time I shouldn't be keeping a new DSLR and my financial priorities should be focused elsewhere so I roughly mathed it up and figured if I rented those items for a month I'd be out a few hundred vs buying it and selling em both I'd lose a smaller amount while also learning the camera before my long trip, which overall ended up costing me about $250 for a yr of owning then selling vs higher cost of renting for only a month and not being familiar enough with it. Since then I have lost my love for my trusted 5Dc + Sig 50, image seem bland and the IQ isn't NEARLY as nice.

So here I am thinking I am ready to take the plunge and get that combo again but I've thought maybe I should consider getting the 6Dii over the original or a 5Diii for a few hundred more used.

I have also thought about getting a 35/2 IS over the Sig 35 Art if I went 6Dii or 5Diii, figuring the cost would be roughly the same as a 6D + Sig 35 Art.

Is there any thoughts about what I would gain/lost with either decision?

6D + Sig 35
6Dii/5Diii + EF 35/2 IS

I'd do most walk around, travel photos, family, and now with 2x kids (8 and 4) and sports coming up, that maybe the extra focus points may help because when i get a camera I stick to it for a long time.

Also, I am unsure if I would keep my 5Dc or try to get as much money back to fund forward to the new upgrades.

I've never owned the 5D lll but I know it is a loved camera. I bought a 6D & loved it. Two months later I got a great deal on a new 6D Mark ll ($1,099 & it included a Canon battery grip). I month later, I sent the Mark ll back to B&H & got another 6D Mark l. I personally thought the IQ was better in the Mark l. Just my opinion.

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I've been a 5D series user for the heavier body, interface, customization, and advanced AF (of the 5D3 and 5D4). I would have picked the 5D3 over the 6D because of the interface and AF. But you say you list wifi as one of the things you liked with the 6D. The 5D3 is slightly older, and also being magnesium body, doesn't have wifi (7D2 came out later and still didn't have wifi in a magnesium body). 5D4 does though. But for your budget, it seems the 6D2 might be the best option. It has wifi and also has a more advanced AF. It also has touch screen...which once you try you can't go back (personally I'm enjoying with the 5D4...especially going through the interface, or zooming in an image).

If you dont have any canon gear then i would also seriously consider sony and fuji. Both systems have great pic quality and i personally think offer you more bang for the buck. As for the canon choices for me they all seemed like a sidegrade to me. I dont really care for the 5d3 as it has banding issues and the 6d1 has better pic quality but obviously the 5d3 offers much better everything else. The 6d2 didnt interest me as a upgrade from the 6d1 either. The 6d2 has more af points but also all clustered in the middle which is the main thing i dislike about my 6d1.
So anyways all seem to be relatively equal. If you find a great deal on any camera just get that. They are all old technology but can still produce great pictures as long as you use them within there limitations.
However on a sidenote im not sure how much upgrade path canon will give us with tge dslr market. So this might be buying into a dead system or on the flip side buying into a now much cheaper second hand system/market

I own both , the 6D and 5 d Mark iii.


Both are very good cameras. I do wildlife and nature ( landscape ) photography. 6 D is very good in low light while 5d Mark III has very good focus system.


I use 6D with EF 300 mm F/2.8 L II lens with 1.4x extender. Its red circle dot with the central focus point helps a lot while focussing an object in AI Servo mode. Wish 5D Mark III had the similar feature in AI Servo mode . I use an EF 70-300 F/4-5.6 L lens on it. But both do the job very well.

6D is often criticised for its sparse focus points and slow continuous shutter speed (4.5 fps ). However I have found this camera doing its job beautifully provided you operate it with its these two limitations in mind.

Jai.

I'm not going to dispute the IQ benefits of the 6D1 over the 6D2, as I've never owned a 6D1, however the comparisons I've seen also show that the advantage is really only there is low ISO, and as that increases the 6D2 performance starts to show. Something worth considering, as 99% of comparisons seem to focus on ISO100 DR.

I really like the touch flip screen on the 6D2, which is not what I expected. That being said I'd much still prefer it combined with 5D/7D ergonomics.

It seems to me that the 6D1 is a very safe bet for you, as you know it well. The 6D2 and 5D3 bring features (6D2) and ergonomics (5D3), along with better AF, with a risk in IQ you're unhappy with.

As for the 35 F/2 IS, I struggle to see how there is a better low-light lens available on Canon. There'll be some situations where IS doesn't help, and others where IS is far more useful than a bigger aperture, but on the whole it's exceptional. I wouldn't trade it for a 35 F/1.4.

My comparisons with the 2 6Ds were always at higher ISO, 3200 & up, because I shoot indoor/night sports & that's my "real world" usage. I don't know much about technical issues of the camera all I do is compare images. So, I'm not sure, but my GUESS with me liking the images of the 6D M l better might be the higher pixel count crammed into the same sized sensor. Someone here might respond to me with technical this or that & tell me I'm wrong (which is very possible) but this is just my guess.

Mark l: It has been stated that the 6D IS NOT a sports camera. This is true if compared to the 7D, 5D, or 1D series. However, for $1,000 it's quite good. I shoot with center focus point only so the "lack" of focus points means nothing to me. I use BBF, focus tracking in Al SERVO mode. I was quite surprised with the focusing speed & tracking with the 6D, an of course, the IQ.

Mark ll: With all the same settings as used with the Mark l, the Mark ll seemed to be about the same. I liked the flipped screen for my occasional macro work, but the touch screen is something I would never use. I disabled it as soon I powered up. Definitely like the higher FPS. 2 FPS doesn't sound like much but it is when shooting sports. I feel the IQ a little below the Mark l.

I had an extended window for returning to B&H due to their policy over the holidays, so I took my time trying out the Mark ll. I had an assignment & decide it would be a good comparison. I was shooting an NCAA men's basketball game & would be sitting along the baseline near the basket. I shoot with a 50mm on one body and the 70-200mm on another body. This time I took the 2 6Ds. I was in the same spot for both halves of the game. First half the 50mm on the 6D, 70-200mm on the 6D ll. Second half I simply switched the lenses. Those are the images that made my final decision to return the Mark ll & get another Mark l.

I really don't think you'll be disappointed with any of them. After all, they're all CANON.

How much money is your limit?

Do you have any curiosity about an upcoming Canon EOS RP and the affordable RF 35mm?

From speculation I read, it may in a similar price range as the 6D mk ii

Get the 6d now and use it for a year. Then trade for the EOS rp or r in a year when their prices drop down. The RP is basically the 6d2 in mirrorless form and will probably cause the 6d2 to drop in value pretty quickly.

Budget?
I was hoping to be around the $1K mark but if it means spending a bit more for longevity, then sure. That isn't including if I decided to sell my current items to fund moving up which if I spend 1k, i will be selling what I have.

Swapping it later?
I also don't like playing musical chairs with bodies, lenses sure, but bodies I feel depreciate faster than a lens so I'd rather buy once and cry once. I know with my lenses, as long as I take care of them, I can get a good return on them.

As I see it, IQ wise, it's all going to be relatively the same to me and impressive because I am currently on a 5Dc so anything newer in the last 5 years is going to blow my mind. Hell, my moms a6000 I got for her right before the trip as a mother's day/Bday gift still really impresses me right now. (before anyone says how much money I spent before my trip, this was split 3 ways by family... ) I guess the main question I have in my head is "is it worth the extra money for a better AF system over a 6D for longevity?"

I think my next thing to look over is Fuji and Sony mirrorless systems and just browse what they have.... Never thought about the EOS R and RP being a sign of the end of the EF/-s lineup in the future , I've seen it mentioned a few times, the first one I thought was a bit chicken little sounding.

Only you can answer if the 6d1 af system is good enough for you. But seeing how all three of these bodies are older you should buy used. Very little depreciation compared to buying new

elitejp wrote in post #18808093
Only you can answer if the 6d1 af system is good enough for you. But seeing how all three of these bodies are older you should buy used. Very little depreciation compared to buying new

Definitely was the idea to go used. I just haven't touched a 6Dii or 5Diii although now that I have been reading since I initially asked, it appears the 6Dii's AF isn't as much of an improvement as I thought it would be compared to a 5Diii.

Bleufire wrote in post #18808097
Definitely was the idea to go used. I just haven't touched a 6Dii or 5Diii although now that I have been reading since I initially asked, it appears the 6Dii's AF isn't as much of an improvement as I thought it would be compared to a 5Diii.

The 5D3 AF is spread out a bit more than the 6D2 and is very good for sports/action. However if you truly want to buy just once, but only have a budget of $1000, then there isn't really a great choice.

Again, buying a 6D for around $600 used, pocket that $400 savings, and later sell it for very little loss to pick up something much more longer term would make more sense to me. Or just wait one year to see how the mirrorless things settle with Canon. It will impact the sale prices of the 6D2, 5D3, 5D4, etc to the point your budget will get you more for the money. If you don't mind the mirror in a DSLR (which we have managed to utilize for years upon years), then you really would want the 5D4. That eclipses the 6D, 6D2 and 5D3, and would be a camera you could love for a very, very long time.

Have Canon & Fuji. The X-T3 is easily my favourite camera. Goes everywhere with us.

For comparison, 6D + 35 2.0 or 85 1.8 is relatively compact and quite light. I didn't appreciate how large/heavy the 5D3 is until I had it side by side with a 6D. The 5D3 is a great camera but in my experience relative size/weight/cost does matter when you're out and about.

Our local camera store has new 6Ds for $1,079 CAD. That's a steal for the image quality that comes out of it. Used, in good shape, it's an excellent buy. If you're comfortable with the 5D AF system the 6D should be adequate.

X-T3 is pricey at the moment but imo is worth it. X-T2 prices are holding at a few hundred less than X-T3 although I've seen good deals on open box and demo models ($1k CAD).

The X-T30 will be out at the end of March and looks to be 90% of the X-T3 for 2/3 the price. I found the X-T20 too small for my large paws, same with the Sony a6k series. Powerful little camera though. May be worth a look.

I was pleasantly suprised by the X-T3 AF system once I got it dialed in. Handles our kid dancing in low light no problem. Love the film simulations. Shooting mostly jpg these days. No need to process raw files in C1 or LR in most cases.

Got a couple of cheap Godox TT685 speedlites and XProF for OCF. Works well.

Sensor-wise, since someone's probably going mention apples, oranges and the International Space Station. X-T2/3 splits the difference between 7D2 and 5D3. Current generation of full frame sensors produce unbelievable images. APS-C still has a way to go. I've made a conscious effort to calibrate my expectations and use the right gear for the job. Around the house, chasing kids and coffee shop candids, Fuji all the way.