All Future R mounts will have IBIS- per Canon

per FRO

watch video at 6;00 Minute mark.

canon told testers all future R mounts will have IBIS

this is Huge

https://www.youtube.co​m …04avL85vZ-wM0luaXzlsY-b70

Dual IS

in body and in the lens 6:25 on the video

Hope it is true.... soon. They have needed to do this for a long time.

He never said that Canon said that all future cameras will have IBIS.

He interpreted them to say future cameras (not all) will have IBIS, and the Canon slide just says Future Plan.

I can guarantee you that there will be future mirrorless without IBIS.

Canon already stated in November that they would be introducing IBIS in future mirrorless, so this isn't new news.

One little word changes everything, much like one little punctuation mark.

Since Day One, Canon had openly declared the first R mount body to be 'middle'
...and the second R mount body to be 'entry' and the third R mount body to be 'pro'.

Now that 'entry' and 'middle' are on the market, the future R mount 'pro' body effectively falls into the 'future R mount' category and makes sense that the premium camera support both in-lens and in-body stabilization technology.

But, as suggested by TeamSpeed, some 'future' versions of the 'entry' R mount bodies could indeed lack IBIS since Canon did NOT state that IBIS would be in 'ALL future' R mount bodies, and this would follow past Canon marketing patterns of de-featuring lower end models in order to try to drive up demand for their premium models.

umphotography wrote in post #18810923
watch video at 6;00 Minute mark.

canon told testers all future R mounts will have IBIS

Really? . I watched the video, and never did I hear anything about IBIS being in all future R mounts. . Where did you hear "all"? . Or, did you interpret the statement to mean "all", even though they never said that?

I think that if we post something here to POTN as if it is a fact, then we need to stick to the facts. . If we post our own interpretation, or opinion, then we need to make it absolutely clear in our post that it is only our own thoughts, and not a fact. . We all need to be extremely careful about how we word things, lest we lead others astray.

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TeamSpeed wrote in post #18812771
He never said that Canon said that all future cameras will have IBIS.

You are absolutely right, Cary. . Jared didn't say "all", and the graphic that he shows, created by Canon, did not say "all".


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Does IS work better in the body than IS in the lens?

Or is it better in the body because you then do not need to pay for it in every lens, you pay for it one time in the body?

Inspeqtor wrote in post #18813475
Does IS work better in the body than IS in the lens?

Or is it better in the body because you then do not need to pay for it in every lens, you pay for it one time in the body?

It depends on its implementation. In body IS is great for so many primes and even zooms that don't have IS, and you can then spend less for non IS lenses. However the longer the focal length, the more valuable the IS within the lens. Canon has always taken the stance that if they felt the market would bear it, having tuned IS per lens for its focal length to be better than in body IS that other manufacturers employ.

However they have finally decided they have to match the competition to provide this. Video shooters would benefit because many lenses they would use for light carry-around video work may not be IS, so in body would be good. Low light prime shooting could benefit because now you could use IS and lower the ISO a bit. Imagine shooting the 24-70L II but having stabilization in body? It would be very nice.

Canon's digital IS that is in its mirrorless now (M50, R, RP) actually works somewhat well, but it reduces the resolution at which you shoot so it can do the digital stabilization. If it was real IBIS, then that limitation would go away as well.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18812771
He never said that Canon said that all future cameras will have IBIS.

He interpreted them to say future cameras (not all) will have IBIS, and the Canon slide just says Future Plan.

That sounds like the safe way to interpret what he said.

I got the impression that some future bodies would have IBIS, but maybe not all of the next cameras.

Wilt wrote in post #18812972
Since Day One, Canon had openly declared the first R mount body to be 'middle'
...and the second R mount body to be 'entry' and the third R mount body to be 'pro'.

Now that 'entry' and 'middle' are on the market, the future R mount 'pro' body effectively falls into the 'future R mount' category and makes sense that the premium camera support both in-lens and in-body stabilization technology.

I don't need IBIS. If Canon puts it in the next RF body, I won't complain unless it causes an indirect problem or significant added expense.

But if Canon adds no IBIS next model, it may sell like hotcakes if it has two card slots, the stupid joystick some people want, faster frame rate and a tad bit better eye detect focus. And my guess for that stems from how much good RF glass may be released in the near future, the great RF glass available, and the near-perfect adapters and adapted EF glass.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18813186
Really? . I watched the video, and never did I hear anything about IBIS being in all future R mounts. . Where did you hear "all"? . Or, did you interpret the statement to mean "all", even though they never said that?

I think that if we post something here to POTN as if it is a fact, then we need to stick to the facts. . If we post our own interpretation, or opinion, then we need to make it absolutely clear in our post that it is only our own thoughts, and not a fact. . We all need to be extremely careful about how we word things, lest we lead others astray.

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You are absolutely right, Cary. . Jared didn't say "all", and the graphic that he shows, created by Canon, did not say "all".

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go to 6:11 on the video

" Canon told us future bodies that they will make will have IBIS " Future bodies wiil have dual IS systems with Lens and IBIS

thats what he said. said it was official

do you think they will only put it in select bodies...i dont... future bodies sounds like all bodies to me

umphotography wrote in post #18814728
go to 6:11 on the video

" Canon told us future bodies that they will make will have IBIS " Future bodies wii have dual ISA systems with Lens and IBIS

thats what he said. said it was official

do you think they will only put it in select bodies...i dont... future bodies sounds like all bodies to me

It is official that future cadillacs will be electric, however that doesn't mean all from this point forward, it just means that some unspecified number of future models will be electric.

Of course IBIS will be an option to be used as a differentiator between models, just like sensor resolutions, AF systems, and even more recently, common video framerates.

Its gonna be as automatic as Video in cameras. Once the put it one it will go in all. Kind of like Live view being standard equipment

you guys are being way to literal

its gonna happen

As automatic as the standard 24fps in video? Or a sensor shield when the camera is powered down? Because that video standard, set across 10 years of Canon DSLRs, was removed on the EOS RP, as was the sensor shield which is actually a pretty innovative feature over other manufacturers. One is a software setting, the other is hardware. IBIS is part of the sensor assembly, so it would be very easy to make one sensor with the assembly and one without across different models.

Canon will continue to run roughshod through releases with various features and functions and hardware differences.

Sure, read it however you want, from this day forward all Canon mirrorless bodies will have IBIS... despite knowing Canon's history, and the vague wording from Canon. Per your other posts, Canon will never again make a DSLR or EF lens either. In 2 years, we can come back to this thread and see if you can gloat.

umphotography wrote in post #18814728
go to 6:11 on the video

" Canon told us future bodies that they will make will have IBIS " Future bodies wiil have dual IS systems with Lens and IBIS

thats what he said. said it was official

do you think they will only put it in select bodies...i dont... future bodies sounds like all bodies to me

Yes, that statement may be able to take two paths. I listened to it a couple times, and can't say I know for certain what it really means.

If someone releases half their bodies with IBIS, it fits the wordage and they can say that future bodies did have IBIS. Or if all the bodies have IBIS, it still fits.

If an English PhD had spoken it to Polin that way verbatim and if Polin had repeated it verbatim, I think an English language expert may be able to clarify further based on rule of language. But in context of Polin's review, I can't really tell what's absolute.

umphotography wrote in post #18814728
Future bodies wiil have dual IS systems with Lens and IBIS

thats what he said.

Photographing aircraft in flight at slow shutter speeds could benefit from that. Awesome.