Canon 580ex ii vs Godox tt685c .... pertaining to Phottix Odin trigger

I reviewed an old thread where I inquired about lights and transmitters. Due to it's length and my purchase this month being intertwined to a slight change of kit, I'm going to post from scratch, and more condensed.

Right now, I narrowed down purchase to two flash options:

- Canon 580ex ii (used)

- Godox tt685c (new)

The question mark lingers in this --- will my Phottix Odin transmitter & receiver fire the Godox tt685c, even if it must be manual mode? And would it provide high speed sync if needed?

I am invested in two sets of Phottix Odin, like them, and am accustomed to those. They work excellent, and function perfect with my two 430ex ii, two Flashpoint 360s and the Flashpoint 600.

Note: I'm referring to using the Odin receivers mounted to the shoe - - not sendin wireless directly from the Odin transmitter to the Flashpoint wireless components.

My goal is to integrate a stronger flash that can go on my camera body or hand-hold, that hooks up to the same style of battery pack as my 360s, but also a light that's less than $200 (hopefully). The appeal in the Godox tt685 c is that if I ever use 5 lights, it can work as slave to virtually any of the other lights in SLAVE mode. Whereas the Canon 580ex ii can't be a slave to the lights I already have.

I would prefer NOT to purchase the Godox transmitter with a tt685 flash, but that's an extra last-resort since I would hand-hold to bounce light in a reception area. But if the Phottix Odin could be used, it would shave off some extra expense.

Sync Port ?? >> apparently the Amazon photos show what looks like a sync port on the side of the tt685, but there's no label.

The TT685 has the Godox X1/R2 transmitter build in, will control the Flashpoint 360 and 600, has a 2.5mm sync port, can be powered with the 360 battery pack.

I don't have the Phottix transmitter, and I know Godox speedlights are picky with other brands TX/RX in TTL mode, But I could always make them work in M mode by taping up some pins on the RX. HSS should work with the Odin receiver, but I can not be certain because I have not touched one. HSS can work in optical S1 mode, if it's triggeedr by another HSS flash.

The Flashpoint version of the TT685 is on sale now, money left over for a transmitter

https://www.adorama.co​m …zca.html?Catego​ryID=65022

Lotto wrote in post #18826765
The TT685 has the Godox X1/R2 transmitter build in, will control the Flashpoint 360 and 600, has a 2.5mm sync port, can be powered with the 360 battery pack.

I don't have the Phottix transmitter, and I know Godox speedlights are picky with other brands TX/RX in TTL mode, But I could always make them work in M mode by taping up some pins on the RX. HSS should work with the Odin receiver, but I can not be certain because I have not touched one. HSS can work in optical S1 mode, if it's triggeedr by another HSS flash.

The Flashpoint version of the TT685 is on sale now, money left over for a transmitter

https://www.adorama.co​m …zca.html?Catego​ryID=65022

Also, I didn't say in the OP and assumed others may be familiar, but I'm not triggering my 360s to 600 to their wireless components. But to an Odin receiver mounted on the metal shoe.

That's why I suspected the Godox tt685c may work the same through the shoe or the sync port. But I wasn't certain. But I had it in mind to put the Odin receivers beneath the Godox flash on the shoe ---- if it should work.

I'll will peek at that sale price.

I don't quite get why you like to have a Odin receiver for every light you are using. I mean the TT685 has the transmitter built in the flash, the Godox 360s and 600 have receivers built in. That's 4 lights you can control from the on camera TT685, and with HSS too. You don't need a extra Godox transmitter for now.

If you needed a transmitter to the Godox lights as well, you can use the $40 X1TC. You don't need the Xpro or Xpro II or the newly announced X1TC.

$40 seems like a small price to pay to eliminate the use of 2-3 receivers and their batteries.

Combinations:

Camera + Flashpoint X1T
360II or 360 + XTR16
600
TT685
Full light and strobe control

OR

Camera + TT685
360II or 360 + XTR16
600
TT685
Full light and strobe control

OR

Camera + ODIN
360 + ODIN RCV
600 + ODIN RCV
TT685 + ODIN RCV
Manual triggering only

One of these seems quite a bit more complicated than the others... You will get used to the Godox transmitters, and if you want to fire 2 Canon flashes, you can pick up 2 X1Rs. I suspect the sale of the Odin stuff will more than cover the purchase of these new items. Possibly consider getting over the full control of the 430s and familiarity of the odin with much more strobe control and fewer items to set up/tear down each time.

Even just getting the X1T for $40 will simplify matters when you are only working with the Godox/Flashpoint devices, and keep the Odin stuff. I suspect you will come to the same conclusion later though. I used to have several Yongnuo units and eventually sold them off. I only have one Tx/Rx still because it can trigger the shutter of another camera remotely.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18826907
If you needed a transmitter to the Godox lights as well, you can use the $40 X1TC. You don't need the Xpro or Xpro II or the newly announced X1TC.

$40 seems like a small price to pay to eliminate the use of 2-3 receivers and their batteries.

Combinations:

Camera + Flashpoint X1T
360II or 360 + XTR16
600
TT685
Full light and strobe control

OR

Camera + TT685
360II or 360 + XTR16
600
TT685
Full light and strobe control

OR

Camera + ODIN
360 + ODIN RCV
600 + ODIN RCV
TT685 + ODIN RCV
Manual triggering only

One of these seems quite a bit more complicated than the others... You will get used to the Godox transmitters, and if you want to fire 2 Canon flashes, you can pick up 2 X1Rs. I suspect the sale of the Odin stuff will more than cover the purchase of these new items. Possibly consider getting over the full control of the 430s and familiarity of the odin with much more strobe control and fewer items to set up/tear down each time.

Even just getting the X1T for $40 will simplify matters when you are only working with the Godox/Flashpoint devices, and keep the Odin stuff. I suspect you will come to the same conclusion later though. I used to have several Yongnuo units and eventually sold them off. I only have one Tx/Rx still because it can trigger the shutter of another camera remotely.

Apart from the highlighted not being exactly so I agree but can see the interest in keeping things familiar and have use of the Canon speedlights as well. It is a more complicated setup as demonstrated here + using Godox only with Godox recievers will give you more flexibility and control with less stuff to keep hold on and a simpler faster setup. I wouldnt mix stuff like that but stay with one "brand"

Thank you, yes that is correct, you only get manual power control with the XTR16.

Lotto wrote in post #18826842
I don't quite get why you like to have a Odin receiver for every light you are using. I mean the TT685 has the transmitter built in the flash, the Godox 360s and 600 have receivers built in. That's 4 lights you can control from the on camera TT685, and with HSS too. You don't need a extra Godox transmitter for now.

I don't need a trigger for every single light. But if I have the Odin on my camera to fire two Canon Speedlites and two Godox placed where their sensors are blocked, it makes it very streamlined to keep a receiver on most of the lights. The Canons won't act as slaves to the Godox either. But it's very easy to have the whole batch of lights be slave to the Odin.

But I do expect to get a Godox transmitter too.

Maybe next year I can phase-out the Canon 430EX ii.