Next R body may have 70 Mp- possible late 2019 release

Hope the specs are not true. I dont think many need or want 70 MP

guess we can shot them in M raw

IBIS and Dual cards as they have previously stated

https://www.canonrumor​s.co …d-ibis-coming-later-2019/

That would definitely be crazy. I am in a predicament now - have a 6d but have an itch to upgrade. Considering the R or 5dIV, but feel like waiting makes most sense because any new cameras will surely make those prices drop!

I don't get why cameras are turning into a MP war again, quite happy with the 21 the 1DXII has.

Because others want more resolution....

And you can shoot at smaller sizes most of the time, but maybe once in a while it would be nice to have a full res shot.

People said the same thing about the ISO war in the past.

This is an old rumour though, we still don't know what is coming.

dexy101 wrote in post #18906304
I don't get why cameras are turning into a MP war again, quite happy with the 21 the 1DXII has.

I don't get why people settle for aliased, pixelated images, with no concern for moving towards more analog, natural resolution.

War? The war is on the customers, with big pixels of mass detail destruction.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18906325
Because others want more resolution....

And you can shoot at smaller sizes most of the time, but maybe once in a while it would be nice to have a full res shot.

People said the same thing about the ISO war in the past.

This is an old rumour though, we still don't know what is coming.

Increasing pixel density, and decreasing noise, are both movement in a direction *away* from artifacts. I don't know why some people see this as a war of excesses. Is the real, analog world an excess?

dexy101 wrote in post #18906304
I don't get why cameras are turning into a MP war again, quite happy with the 21 the 1DXII has.

There are times where resolution is desirable. I have been scanning slides (1000s of them) and have been using the 5D. Stated with the 5DII now using my 5DIV. Also, as a macro shooter, resolution is always appreciated.

dexy101 wrote in post #18906304
I don't get why cameras are turning into a MP war again, quite happy with the 21 the 1DXII has.

So here you are, taking photos of ducks. You crop out all the reeds, etc so that you have the duck composed the way you want. However you have cropped away quite a bit because you were a bit limited by reach, but want to print something fairly large.

The crop is on the left, the middle is when you resize that crop up to the equivalent dimensions of a 70Mpx image crop, and the right-most is what you would have had after cropping with the 70Mpx resolution body.

Now sure, you don't have to resize up quite that far for a print, but the IQ still suffers in varying degrees due to digital resizing, vs taking an optical 70Mpx result and cropping and sizing down. One is ALWAYS going to be better than the other. One is more versatile than the other. One can have its high ISO noise reduced a bit easier and cleaner. These are just a few of the reasons.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18906325
Because others want more resolution....

And you can shoot at smaller sizes most of the time, but maybe once in a while it would be nice to have a full res shot.

People said the same thing about the ISO war in the past.

This is an old rumour though, we still don't know what is coming.

Bet cost will either silence people, or have them pull out their wallet.

If the body is under $3800 with M-RAW, bet lots of people open their wallets.

If the body is like $5000 ... bet there's silence from the lion's share of people talking about how great megapixels are for macro and a half dozen other reasons.

I'm hoping for a larger sensor

mdvaden wrote in post #18906658
Bet cost will either silence people, or have them pull out their wallet.

If the body is under $3800 with M-RAW, bet lots of people open their wallets.

If the body is like $5000 ... bet there's silence from the lion's share of people talking about how great megapixels are for macro and a half dozen other reasons.

Why would an expensive price tag alter the value of resolution?

CH_Devin wrote in post #18906749
I'm hoping for a larger sensor

Larger than what? I don't know what post you read before making your reply. Not a clue in your post.

If you mean larger than FF, then you have very few lenses to choose from (the tilt/shift lenses and maybe a few more with large image circles). If Canon only goes >70MP with a bigger sensor, that is a tragedy.

John Sheehy wrote in post #18907122
Larger than what? I don't know what post you read before making your reply. Not a clue in your post.

If you mean larger than FF, then you have very few lenses to choose from (the tilt/shift lenses and maybe a few more with large image circles). If Canon only goes >70MP with a bigger sensor, that is a tragedy.

Yes, larger than FF. Most MF cameras are 50MP. The 5DsR is already 50MP, released five years ago. Fujifilm, Hasselblad, Leica, Pentax, and Phase One cameras all have larger sensors.

Some of Canon's lenses are larger than the lenses used for better, MF cameras. The way they produce telephoto prime lenses show that they are capable of producing larger lenses, while they choose to re-release old lenses instead for the RF mount.

Why would I commit to Canon for decades on the same 35mm sensor image size, while other camera companies are producing logical upgrades for the photographer?

CH_Devin wrote in post #18907130
Yes, larger than FF. Most MF cameras are 50MP. The 5DsR is already 50MP, released five years ago. Fujifilm, Hasselblad, Leica, Pentax, and Phase One cameras all have larger sensors.

Some of Canon's lenses are larger than the lenses used for better, MF cameras. The way they produce telephoto prime lenses show that they are capable of producing larger lenses, while they choose to re-release old lenses instead for the RF mount.

Why would I commit to Canon for decades on the same 35mm sensor image size, while other camera companies are producing logical upgrades for the photographer?

Canon knows their marketshare and their market, so they will do whatever is necessary to keep the bottom line in good shape. I doubt that would be to change sensor sizes. Not everyone wants to change format either, I couldn't care less about medium format. Give me more resolution and edge to edge sharpness on wider lenses with very little to no distortion and I am good.

John Sheehy wrote in post #18907120
Why would an expensive price tag alter the value of resolution?

Try reading the reply again and see if another meaning becomes apparent. What you wrote doesn't seem to fit my last reply above.

The reply involved whether or not people can afford something or are willing to spend money. Your comment is talking about altering value of resolution, which appears to be your own tangent to talk about. That could be discussed too, but isn't really related to what I was talking about whether people open their wallets or not.

If a person can't afford more than $3000 cash or credit, the value they put on a $5000 camera is very unlikely to put a $5000 in their hands.