CANON EOS 1D MARK IV Owners

N.V.M. wrote in post #18891814
i too own the 7D2 and 1D4. for me, the deal breaker between the two cameras is the loud shutter of the 1D4. (yes, i primarily shoot wildlife).

Yeah, I hear you on that (pun intended).

I use the 1D4 as my main wildlife body, and am constantly putting it on the so-called "silent" mode, which is quieter but not even close to silent. . The thing that sucks about that is that in silent mode I lose the 10 FPS burst rate, which is extremely important for a lot of the work I do.

Loud shutters suck. . Totally suck. . Heck, even the very quiet "simulated shutter noise" on my cell phone scared a lizard away last week .... freaked him out and he ran off. . ANY noise AT ALL can scare an animal away, even if it is an extremely soft noise.


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You can find new 1D series bodies for well under $6K. The street price is around $4700 from authorized dealers, one has to do their due diligence and not just go out and be willing to pay full list asking prices.

That was the intent of my post.

For lizards, it is the frequencies being generated most likely, more so than the volume of the sound you are hearing. They have a range of 400 to 1500 Hz, which is quite low. As an example, those test tones you hear on the radio or TV are in this basic range (probably around 1000 Hz), or that wha-wha-wha sound of Charlie Brown's teacher.

I suspect that even with a quieter shutter (to our ears), the frequency may still be enough to scare some animals. Eventually sensor tech (Sony has some things in the pipeline I believe) will be good enough to allow for fully operational global shutters that don't create the rolling effect, etc.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18891870
For lizards, it is the frequencies being generated most likely, more so than the volume of the sound you are hearing. They have a range of 400 to 1500 Hz, which is quite low. As an example, those test tones you hear on the radio or TV are in this basic range (probably around 1000 Hz), or that wha-wha-wha sound of Charlie Brown's teacher.

I suspect that even with a quieter shutter (to our ears), the frequency may still be enough to scare some animals. Eventually sensor tech (Sony has some things in the pipeline I believe) will be good enough to allow for fully operational global shutters that don't create the rolling effect, etc.

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In my case, I had gotten this lizard used to me and had photographed him for about an hour and a half with my 1D4. . I got him real used to me and over the hour and a half moved closer and closer until I was about three feet away from him (near MFD with my 100-400 v2). . I felt that I could get much closer to him, but my 100-400 doesn't focus any closer than 2 or 3 feet, so I pulled out my cell phone and slowly, steadily, extended it towards him until it was only a few inches away from him. . Then, when I pressed the "shutter", it made this tiny little faint sound, and he bolted! . Gone!

I think the fact that the sound came from only a couple inches away is what spooked him. I think this because when I was using my 1D4, I was 2 or 3 feet from him, and didn't have it on silent mode, and he was totally fine with the loud clunk.

So I think it was the insanely close proximity of the sound that scared him, but I don't know that for sure, and you may be right on the money with your "frequency" idea.

By the way, Cary, this happened just last week, not too far from you .... in Oklahoma, which I think is less than a thousand miles from your place, right?


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TeamSpeed wrote in post #18891870
For lizards, it is the frequencies being generated most likely, more so than the volume of the sound you are hearing. They have a range of 400 to 1500 Hz, which is quite low. As an example, those test tones you hear on the radio or TV are in this basic range (probably around 1000 Hz), or that wha-wha-wha sound of Charlie Brown's teacher.

Yep, you learn something new every day. Just not sure what I'm going to do with this information. LOL. Been here for 10 years and you guys have taught me a bunch and I mean it sincerely but if it's OK I'm going to delete the lizard stuff.

Yes that is with 1k miles. On our vacation, I was taking some lizard shots at a resort where they're use to humans, and I could not get within a yard of them without watching then scurry into the brush.

I ended up having to go with as long reach lens.

I thought about pulling up my tone generator app to see what scared off some of the wildlife during our vacation.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18891866
You can find new 1D series bodies for well under $6K. The street price is around $4700 from authorized dealers, one has to do their due diligence and not just go out and be willing to pay full list asking prices.

That was the intent of my post.

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He got it two or three years ago when it was first released (which to me is still "recent") .... I'm not sure you could get a new one from an authorized dealer for $4700 at that time.

But about the intent of your post - you are right in that if today someone paid $5,000 or $6,000, then they would have overpaid a bit for it. . But some people really don't care about a few hundred dollars and wouldn't bother to shop around if that's all they're going to save.

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2cruise wrote in post #18891880
Yep, you learn something new every day. Just not sure what I'm going to do with this information. LOL. Been here for 10 years and you guys have taught me a bunch and I mean it sincerely but if it's OK I'm going to delete the lizard stuff.

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Delete? . What do you mean by that?


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #18891888
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Delete? . What do you mean by that?

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From my memory as I have very limited space

My reply on 6k being a scam price was made to another talking about current and future purchases.

A 300 to 1300 savings is quite a bit for me and I am blessed to have good income. I understand if that isn't the same threshold for others.

1DIV and 1DSIII are the best cameras for the buck in Canon system, i just can't believe how easy it is to grab magnificient photographs with these. I've used more modern cameras before (5D2, 6D, 5D3), but images i get from the 1D's are simply awesome.

_igi wrote in post #18893579
1DIV and 1DSIII are the best cameras for the buck in Canon system, i just can't believe how easy it is to grab magnificient photographs with these. I've used more modern cameras before (5D2, 6D, 5D3), but images i get from the 1D's are simply awesome.

I agree

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