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Nov 16, 2019 04:16 |  #46

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Most newspapers just use hobby photographers who are happy to be there, often they are new to photography so they are a happy to give their work for free and happy to see their name credited.

A newspaper would rather use a 3 out of 10 shot for free than a 9 out of 10 shot that costs money. Hobby photographers usually get fed up when their camera breaks and can't pay the repair with the money they have made from photography.

A newspaper should apply for you after all they are getting free images. It's pretty easy to get into 95% of sporting events using a local paper or agency that will give you a % per sale.

The last line there is critical as well. To really build out an impressive portfolio, you need impressive content. To get access to shoot that content, you need credentials quit often. A media pass is something of value to someone building their skills or body of work. For example I see too often people who have done youth sports, and have fine work, not be able to provide any tear sheers when asked in the process of trying to get "paid" work. To have extrodianary work, you need extraordinary access, and you need to get published. In formal channels that called interning. In less formal, that is access for prints.

Too many who don't know the business don't understand that in the early stages, pro bono and quid pro quo work is part of the process to built a portfolio of work. Models do it. Fashion Photographers do it. And sports photographers do it.




  
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Nov 19, 2019 22:09 |  #47

I have freelance photo contracts with five universities, and two NCAA conferences right now. I started with each by shooting "pro bono". That is the path I took, others may have taken different paths. Here is a video on Youtube that explains how another sports photographer made their way into the business...

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=G3qCEP7nrSY (external link)

I can't speak for other types of photography, but a good percentage of photojournalist and sports shooters I know that make a living doing their craft started out shooting for "images for experience/access". If you can build a sports portfolio that sells well enough based off of non-credentialed work, more power to you. For me to get stuff that was good enough to be paid, I had to shoot a lot of "free for access" work.

Just like any business, you have to invest a lot of time and resources for free before you can have a billable business. Even quit a few of the really good wedding photographers I knew started out as either low cost or free second shooters to get enough sample work to be able to start charging for work themselves. And it usually pays off in being able to bill for much higher rates because they accumulated a lot more experience than someone holding out for opportunities with no historical work to sell with.

It just comes down to how much are you willing to invest to get that body of sellable work/experience.




  
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Nov 19, 2019 22:23 |  #48
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+1 for a couple of years (minimum) pro bono.

Apart from building a portfolio, this enables you to learn much, much more about what clients' needs, expectations and constraints are, plus build a network that can provide references. These references aren't required for your images (your portfolio does that) but to reassure potential clients that you're trustworthy, reliable, know how to work in that environment and understand the subject.


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