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May 19, 2019 08:17 |  #1

Afternoon all,

Is there anything out there worth spending a small amount of money on or am I just heading towards disappointing images?


Any recommendations greatly received all

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May 19, 2019 15:38 |  #2

it would help to name the camera and what you consider a small amount of money.


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May 19, 2019 15:45 |  #3

ed rader wrote in post #18864055 (external link)
it would help to name the camera and what you consider a small amount of money.

Yup.

But a good starting point is to pick up some cheap extension tubes to get an idea of what it takes. Kenko makes some that are well regarded.


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May 19, 2019 19:55 |  #4

There is a fellow on this forum selling a 10-22 and 60 macro right now for, I think, $175 ?? That's the best deal I've seen and do not know why it has yet to be scarfed up.



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May 19, 2019 20:33 |  #5

Pick up an old FD-50mm lens for a couple $$ and a reversing ring for another $5.


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May 20, 2019 03:43 |  #6

Humble apologies folks - I have a Canon 5dmkIII or Canon 6dmkII to use.

UK based and really didn't want to spend much at all if the recommendation was right and the lens had really good results.

I had seen a bit on reversing lenses. Looks very interesting.

I assume i'd be right in saying that it doesn't matter one bit, what brand the lens is if reversed, as you're only matching a thread with a connector to the camera?

Would it be the same as any other scenario in that the more you spend, the better quality images you achieve, or does reversing the lens just negate that theory?

Thanks all, for your replies so far


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May 20, 2019 05:27 |  #7

tuttifrutti wrote in post #18864302 (external link)
Humble apologies folks - I have a Canon 5dmkIII or Canon 6dmkII to use.

UK based and really didn't want to spend much at all if the recommendation was right and the lens had really good results.

I had seen a bit on reversing lenses. Looks very interesting.

I assume i'd be right in saying that it doesn't matter one bit, what brand the lens is if reversed, as you're only matching a thread with a connector to the camera?

Would it be the same as any other scenario in that the more you spend, the better quality images you achieve, or does reversing the lens just negate that theory?

Thanks all, for your replies so far


Yeah, that would have been nice to know up front.



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May 20, 2019 07:56 |  #8

Issues with reversing rings:

1) To shut the aperture down on an electronically controlled aperture lens, you have to mount the lens on the camera, set your aperture, hit the DOF preview button, then dismount the lens to lock in the aperture.

which leads to the new problem with any lens you set the aperture down before taking the shot...

2) It is very nearly difficult to manually focus the gear with the aperture set pretty small due to the lack of light and trying to manually focus with the viewfinder on a Canon DSLR.

I used to use reversing rings, but stopped doing that, extension tubes were MUCH better for things like this.

This was done with a Canon lens with a reversing ring, but the amount of work and tedious nature of such made me look for something else.

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Personally I think something like this used with your current lenses will be better overall, to get started very cheaply.
https://www.amazon.co.​uk …8357353&s=gatew​ay&sr=8-18 (external link)

This lens might be pretty good for macros (not 1:1), and then it serves other purposes too.
https://www.amazon.co.​uk …58357481&s=gate​way&sr=8-6 (external link)

Finally for a 1:1 macro lens, this may be one of the cheaper dedicated lenses for that.
https://www.amazon.co.​uk …ed?ie=UTF8&cond​ition=used (external link)

If you go with an M series in the future, this 1:1 macro lens has built in LEDs for lighting the subject, or you could use other adapted manual lenses as well.
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May 20, 2019 08:34 |  #9

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18864383 (external link)
Issues with reversing rings:

1) To shut the aperture down on an electronically controlled aperture lens, you have to mount the lens on the camera, set your aperture, hit the DOF preview button, then dismount the lens to lock in the aperture.

An old FD lens where you set the aperture manually solves this problem. They are also very cheap.

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2) It is very nearly difficult to manually focus the gear with the aperture set pretty small due to the lack of light and trying to manually focus with the viewfinder on a Canon DSLR.
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Solved using live view. Very easy to focus with live view zoomed in 10x. While I agree that tubes are easier to use and it gets you much closer, they are also more expensive, not much more, but more.


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May 20, 2019 09:22 |  #10

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While I agree that tubes are easier to use and it gets you much closer, they are also more expensive, not much more, but more.

unlike a reverse set-up, they can be used with any lens too.


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May 20, 2019 10:44 |  #11

Live view is very difficult with living creatures, so it depends on what kind of macro subjects you are shooting.

Also with a manual lens, once you focus wide open and then switch the aperture, you are likely out of focus again.

Both of these have been my personal experiences.

Had to use live view on this, but was very difficult and I needed quite a bit of light to make it work.

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May 20, 2019 11:11 |  #12

I'm not advocating that it's the best or even preferred way, clearly it's not. But if your looking to try 1:1 or closer, it's about a cheap as you can get. I've seen FD lenses in Antique shops for a dollar and a reverse mounting ring is about as cheap as you can get as well.


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May 20, 2019 11:44 |  #13

doesn't get any cheaper than this.





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May 20, 2019 17:43 |  #14

tuttifrutti wrote in post #18863857 (external link)
Afternoon all,

Is there anything out there worth spending a small amount of money on or am I just heading towards disappointing images?


Any recommendations greatly received all

Thanks

Have you posted this question on another thread? If so my views are there. Just get a used Canon 100 F2.8 Macro (non L) and be happy - I am!


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May 21, 2019 11:02 |  #15

Tokina makes the least expensive full frame macro lens I know about at $349. It is 100 mm and F2.8, and reported to be very sharp. I am not crazy about the clutch that you use on Tokina to go from AF to MF. If you are willing to spend more, I can recommend the Canon 100 F2.8 non L macro and the Sigma 70 F2.8 macro. Both are very sharp.

I haven’t used the Tokina 100, but I have had experience with their 35 mm crop macro lens. It is a fine lens. You can’t beat the price of the Tokina 100 macro, if you want that focal length. It all depends on your intended use.




  
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