Sony Announces the new A7 R IV 60Mp camera....... WHY 60 MP's

Looks like a great camera. But wondering why we are in a massive MP race on these mirrorless bodies ?

Canon is rumored to be bringing out a 75MP dual card very soon and to be honest, my guess is 95% of the photographers DONT need 60-75 Mp's

Here is the video on the new body and specs

Im sure we can shoot these in some type of Mraw mode. But I just dont get why the Mfgs are going this direction

https://www.youtube.co​m …lmjznfX3UlMWpfK​-RfSpVA0DU

Somebody posted today but your thread may end up with better dialogue. I have the 5DS and most of the time the files are more than needed and slow down processing unless I reduce RAW size in camera. Jared Polin noted that RAW files of the A7R iv are 130 megabytes each. So a question is whether the new Sony has options in menu to reduce image size. Polin said the touchscreen did not work. The back screen is 3 inches and 1.44 million dots whereas the $2K EOS R is 3.15 inches with 2.15 million dots. Considering the A7R iv is maybe best suited to landscape, why not a better screen?

Oddly, there were scores of complaints in Youtube replies under several videos today. Apparently Sony owners irritated that another body wasn't released first instead, certain video related features missing, or the high megapixels. A good number of negativity seemed related to video and less toward photography.

Here's a 2nd dpreview on Youtube --- more straight to the point.

Some good feedback, including the limited RAW option and confirming no touch screen.

Huge contrast between this review and another I watched earlier from Chelsea Northrup.

Confirmed- NO S-RAW OR M-RAW FILES.....ONLY 61 MP FILES

Question asked to sony reps

" No other resolution options currently. The question was asked if it’s on the radar. The answer is yes, but it’s a matter of priorities and currently it’s not a priority in the global marketplace."

Thanks for confirming. Frankly, I think that is bonkers!!! I can understanding the needs of a few for this type of resolution, but I thought I heard in the official sony announcement that this was an 'all rounder'!! Hmm, not really! Based on using a friends A7iii at the weekend, and the improvements on this camera, it could have been my nudge to jump ship. But no way am I interested dealing with these files sizes for family photos

umphotography wrote in post #18895344
Confirmed- NO S-RAW OR M-RAW FILES.....ONLY 61 MP FILES

Question asked to sony reps

" No other resolution options currently. The question was asked if it’s on the radar. The answer is yes, but it’s a matter of priorities and currently it’s not a priority in the global marketplace."

Certainly some photographers will like the new Sony. But it would be interesting to stand in the shoes of people who have been shooting Sony to transition to no touchscreen on the A7R iv after having touch. Aside from landscape photographers who may shoot fewer frames, the new Sony could throw a mix of difficulty and improvements. The preliminary reviews are minimal, but some of the early reviews should be helpful whether to pre-order the A7R iv or just invest in other bodies.

They must be shills for the harddrive manufacturers of the world!

Wilt wrote in post #18895565
They must be shills for the harddrive manufacturers of the world!

This!

Wilt wrote in post #18895565
They must be shills for the harddrive manufacturers of the world!

Earlier this year I shot a few weddings including my 5DS set to L-RAW. When I realized the number of files and sizes, it was the first time I took a close look what my main hard drive and external hard drives had for remaining space and total space. So I set the 5DS to M-RAW last wedding.I have space to spare, but I am keeping an eye on it now, unlike when I had just a 60D, 5D mk ii or 5D mk iii Geez, the one composite redwood photo I did for a distillery recently of 12 stitched images was 400 megabytes saved at the highest setting.

I am planning to get just one external drive just for composites, because I plan to take more to keep on hand.

I have an a7rIII. It has a touch screen. I turn the touch screen off because accidentally touches while the camera is hanging from a strap will put the focus point somewhere crazy and it screws me up when I pick the camera up to shoot. Honestly when shooting seriously via the viewfinder, the tactile feedback of physical buttons, knobs, and sticks is more important.

I'm not buying the a7rIV right out the gate because I don't need 61mp, and there aren't any substantial upgrades other than resolution vs the a7rIII because quite frankly, the a7rIII is still more capable than most cameras out there.

But buying a 61mp camera and wanting to shoot in mRaw because the files are too big is a waste of money and megapixels IMO. If 61mp files are such an issue, there are plenty of solid Sony mirrorless cameras out there. a7III, a7rIII, a9 are all 'old' models, but still more capable than anything Canikon is offering and are attractively priced at this point. A7rIII is only $200 more than the EOS R right now and it will likely be discounted further once the a7rIV hits the streets.

mystik610 wrote in post #18895719
But buying a 61mp camera and wanting to shoot in mRaw because the files are too big is a waste of money and megapixels IMO. If 61mp files are such an issue, there are plenty of solid Sony mirrorless cameras out there.

Agreed

as a wedding photographer

try shooting 25 weddings a season on a 61 MP sensor- OMG I could not imagine

I would think any photographer willing to dish out the $3500 on this camera can also include the <$100 for a 4tb drive if they don't already have one. Also, it looks as if Canons new cameras are following.

gjl711 wrote in post #18895752
I would think any photographer willing to dish out the $3500 on this camera can also include the <$100 for a 4tb drive if they don't already have one. Also, it looks as if Canons new cameras are following.

Its not the storage drive thats the problem. Its the active drive where you do all the post processing.

I have very fast and very good drives and computers. The best i can get from MAC

30 Mp files are slow enough to go through. 61 mp files, going through 1500 from a wedding........dont want this at all

gjl711 wrote in post #18895752
I would think any photographer willing to dish out the $3500 on this camera can also include the <$100 for a 4tb drive if they don't already have one. Also, it looks as if Canons new cameras are following.

It is not simply about affordability of data online 'storage'...there is also the greater added overhead for

1. initial data backup and of
   
2. data offsite redundancy, and
   
3. then (when the inevitable happens) data 'renewal' when media changes or the interface electronics for media changes and forces the need for migration to the new technology.
   
4. And, I dread this thought of how glacial it could be, the greater time for restoration of data from cloud backup when something catastrophic happens to home/office.
   

The only reason I would buy a 60 or 75mp camera is if I were shooting landscapes or cityscapes meant to blown up for a full wall in a gallery, where visitors might qualify the experience by whether or not they saw detail in the blades of grass in the foreground.

There are those who perceive the number of pixels as the quintessential signifier of excellence and want to (1) have bragging rights among those who share their vision (in other words, dilettantes) and/or (2) want (naively) to bring their photography to the "next level." The Marketing Department clearly sees this as a viable sales demographic.